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Re Why You Should Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane


From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 21:47:38 +0000

I will not drink water on Amtrak except from the food court
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From: Dan Gillmor <dan () gillmor com>
Date: Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Why You Should Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea
on a Plane
To: <dave () farber net>



This story doesn't have even one example of a case in which the
allegedly tainted water caused an illness. I'm prepared to believe it's
a problem, but not with absolutely zero evidence presented there's a
more than vanishingly small -- in this case, based on no data, zero -- risk.

On 06/24/2017 09:31 PM, Dave Farber wrote:

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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com
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Date: Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 3:26 PM
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Why You Should Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee
or Tea on a Plane
To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com
<mailto:dewayne-net () warpspeed com>>


Why You Should Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane
By Stacey Leasca
Jun 17 2017
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http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/flight-attendants-dont-drink-coffee-tea-planes


Overnight and early morning flights are hard on all of us. Sometimes,
the only saving grace is a nice warm cup of tea or coffee to wake us up
and help us feel refreshed after hours in the air. But you may want to
think twice before you order that English breakfast blend, according to
cabin crew members.

“Flight attendants will not drink hot water on the plane. They will not
drink plain coffee, and they will not drink plain tea,” one flight
attendant told Business Insiderin February. Why the self-imposed ban on
delicious warm beverages?

As NBC 5 noted, the water for tea and coffee comes from the tap, not
from a bottle, while in flight. And that water could be downright
disgusting. According to a 2004 EPA sample of 158 planes, 13 percent
contained coliform. Two of the airplanes were found to have dangerous
E.coli in the water. And as Business Insider reported, an additional EPA
study found that one in every eight planes fails the agency’s standards
for water safety.

Water onboard is regulated under the Environmental Protection Agency to
ensure safe drinking water on the aircraft,” the The Association of
Flight Attendants-CWA, told Business Insider. “The Association of Flight
Attendants-CWA pushed for this regulation over 15 years ago. The
regulation gives broad discretion to airlines on how often they must
test the water and flush the tanks. AFA does not believe this regulation
goes far enough or is sufficiently enforced."

The bacteria is likely delivered while the water is in transit, NBC
reported. According to a 2015 study in the International Journal of
Environmental Research and Public Health, more microorganisms exist in
the transport vehicles than in the water’s original source, thus
transferring the organisms from truck to plane.

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