Re NYTimes: U.C. Irvine Rescinds Acceptances for Hundreds of Applicants

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

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> From: Krulwich <krulwich () yahoo com>
> Date: July 31, 2017 at 5:13:14 AM EDT
> To: <dave () farber net>, ip <ip () listbox com>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Re NYTimes: U.C. Irvine Rescinds Acceptances for Hundreds of Applicants
> Reply-To: Krulwich <krulwich () yahoo com>
>
> Anyone that's run processes like this knows that it's not so simple. Yes, tech can help, but if you know your accept 
> rate is going to be a lot less than 100%, or your cancellation rate will be significant, you need to accept more than 
> 100% and gamble on the accept/cancel rates or you're shooting yourself in the foot. This relates to everything from 
> college acceptances to job search to selling seats on airplanes.
>
> In the example given previously, if it takes a week for the early acceptances to decide, during that week the college 
> will lose a lot of people who will get their acceptances after the "no"'s start to come in. Say they accept X but are 
> going to end up accepting X+Y after Y people in the first batch say no. People in the Y group but not the X group may 
> have gotten other acceptances and may take one, but if they were accepted from the start would have accepted here.
>
> This is the reason airlines offer cash for seats occasionally. The number of times that that happens, and the 
> inconvenience to passengers, is worth it to fill the plane by slightly overaccepting.
>
> In the college case, they need to figure out what to do. I agree that retracting the acceptances is wrong. But it 
> doesn't make the process wrong, it just means they need to figure out a solution.
>
> --Bruce
>
>
> On Monday, July 31, 2017, 6:59:59 AM GMT+3, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> > From: "Synthesis:Law and Technology" <synthesis.law.and.technology () gmail com>
> > Date: July 30, 2017 at 5:15:39 PM EDT
> > To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> > Subject: Re: [IP] NYTimes: U.C. Irvine Rescinds Acceptances for Hundreds of Applicants
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > I must be missing something here.  The stated reason is too many people accepted the offers. So why offer too many? 
> > What's wrong with waiting lists?  What criteria were used, I refuse to believe that all successful applicants 
> > exactly made it to the same degree.  Waiting lists for acceptance have been around since...well... before my time at 
> > least.  I was on the wait list for my chosen med school but law was most excited to have me.  By the time med school 
> > recognized my inherent " superiority" and offered me a place, I was already reading up for first term.  I can 
> > guarantee they found someone further on the list to replace.  And this was all done without massive computer 
> > systems. Someone accepts an offer? "Boop" someone at the end is no longer on the wait list.  Or left there just in 
> > case.  It's really trivial at that point.  And scalable.  You do a manual override to accept more than the quota for 
> > history? The overall number gets decreased in the faculty.  There just seems no need for this.
> >
> >
> > On Jul 30, 2017 2:25 PM, "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com> wrote:
> > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/ 07/29/us/uc-irvine-acceptance- rejected.html?smprod=nytcore- 
> > ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share
> >
> > With too many applicants vying to enter the Class of 2021, the university had to rescind acceptance letters for 499 
> > students. Dozens have appealed.
> >
> >
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