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Re Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its Life


From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:36:31 +0000

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From: Joe Mornin <joe () mornin org>
Date: Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its Life
To: <dave () farber net>


an expedited and simplified procedure at the start to determine if the
case is meritless and should be dismissed forthwith

This exists:

A "motion to dismiss" asks the court to decide that a claim, even if true
as stated, is not one for which the law offers a legal remedy. As an
example, a claim that the defendant failed to greet the plaintiff while
passing the latter on the street, insofar as no legal duty to do so may
exist, would be dismissed for failure to state a valid claim: the court
must assume the truth of the factual allegations, but may hold that the
claim states no cause of action under the applicable substantive law. A
claim that has been presented after the statute of limitations has expired
is also subject to dismissal. If granted, the claim is dismissed without
any evidence being presented by the other side. A motion to dismiss has
taken the place of the common law demurrer in most modern civil practice.
When a court dismisses a case, many lay persons state the case was "thrown
out."

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_(legal)#To_dismiss)

Techdirt has filed a motion to dismiss:
https://ia601503.us.archive.org/34/items/dkt-no-11/dkt-no-11.pdf,
https://archive.org/download/dkt-no-13/dkt-no-13.pdf.

On 02/19/2017 11:20 AM, Dave Farber wrote:



Begin forwarded message:

*From:* Harvey Silverglate <Harvey () harveysilverglate com
<mailto:Harvey () harveysilverglate com>>
*Date:* February 19, 2017 at 2:07:44 PM EST
*To:* "dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net>" <dave () farber net
<mailto:dave () farber net>>
*Subject:* *RE: [IP] Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its Life*

Part of the problem in these kinds of cases is the enormous – and for
the most part unnecessary – complexity, and hence expense and delays
of the legal system. What we need is a statute or a doctrine that
requires that in cases implicating First Amendment rights, and
especially in defamation cases (which are so easily brought), there be
an expedited and simplified procedure at the start to determine if the
case is meritless and should be dismissed forthwith. And if the trial
court judge refused to dismiss at that stage, there should be an
expedited interlocutory right of appeal with a simplified appellate
process.



One of the problems is that the legal system is simply too complex,
too time-consuming, too expensive. It is one thing for the lumbering
elephant of a legal system to deal with corporate disputes over
contracts or business issues, but it’s curtains in the
media/defamation context.



*From:*Dave Farber [mailto:farber () gmail com]
*Sent:* Sunday, February 19, 2017 11:15 AM
*To:* ip
*Subject:* [IP] Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its Life






Begin forwarded message:

    *From:* Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com
    <mailto:dewayne () warpspeed com>>
    *Date:* February 19, 2017 at 9:13:06 AM EST
    *To:* Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net
    <dewayne-net () warpspeed com <mailto:dewayne-net () warpspeed com>>
    *Subject:* *[Dewayne-Net] Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its
    Life*
    *Reply-To:* dewayne-net () warpspeed com
    <mailto:dewayne-net () warpspeed com>

    [Note:  This item comes from friend Bob Frankston.  Bob’s
    comment:'I donated. Can one counter-sue for harassment on such a
    bogus claim?’.  DLH]

    Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its Life
    from the the-first-amendment-has-to-mean-something dept
    By Mike Masnick
    Jan 11 2017
    <
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170111/11440836465/techdirts-first-amendment-fight-life.shtml


    As you may have heard, last week we were sued for $15 million by
    Shiva Ayyadurai, who claims to have invented email. We have
    written, at great length, about his claimsand our opinion — backed
    up by detailed and thorough evidence — that email existed long
    before Ayyadurai created any software. We believe the legal claims
    in the lawsuit are meritless, and we intend to fight them and to win.

    There is a larger point here. Defamation claims like this can
    force independent media companies to capitulate and shut down due
    to mounting legal costs. Ayyadurai's attorney, Charles Harder, has
    already shown that this model can lead to exactly that result. His
    efforts helped put a much larger and much more well-resourced
    company than Techdirt completely out of business.

    So, in our view, this is not a fight about who invented email.
    This is a fight about whether or not our legal system will silence
    independent publications for publishing opinions that public
    figures do not like.

    And here's the thing: this fight could very well be the end of
    Techdirt, even if we are completely on the right side of the law.

    Whether or not you agree with us on our opinions about various
    things, I hope that you can recognize the importance of what's at
    stake here. Our First Amendment is designed to enable a free and
    open press — a press that can investigate and dig, a press that
    can challenge and expose. And if prominent individuals can make
    use of a crippling legal process to silence that effort, or even
    to create chilling effects among others, we become a weaker nation
    and a weaker people because of it.

    We are a truly small and independent media company. We do not have
    many resources. We intend to fight this baseless lawsuit because
    of the principles at stake, but we have no illusions about the
    costs. It will take a toll on us, even if we win. It will be a
    distraction, no matter what happens. It already has been — which
    may well have been part of Ayyadurai's intent.

    [snip]

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