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Re Brick & Mortar Store Goes Cashless
From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:29:36 +0000
Interesting ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: John Gilmore <gnu () toad com> Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Re Brick & Mortar Store Goes Cashless To: <dave () farber net> Cc: ip <ip () listbox com> Rogoff claims that in the US:
...the vast bulk of physical currency is held in the underground economy, fueling tax evasion and crime of all sorts.
The vast bulk of physical currency is held overseas, which the US government heartily approves of. For a few pennies they print up a piece of paper that says "$100", and people from the rest of the world give them $100 worth of goods and services for it. It's a free loan to the US government. And if that piece of paper is used worldwide by a variety of people to pay each other for things, and never comes back to the US, then the US government NEVER has to redeem it, so the $100 was a free GIFT to the US government. The US government has deliberately quadrupled its printing of $100 bills in order to benefit itself more from this gift -- see: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/the-money-plane-republic-national-bank-russia/ The USG gains $6 or $7 billion dollars a year from this, according to E. L. Feige. It's called "seignioriage": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage#Overseas_circulation
Moreover, most of this cash is held in the form of large denomination notes such as the US $100 that are increasingly unimportant in legal, tax-compliant transactions. Ninety-five percent of Americans never hold $100s, yet for every man, woman and child there are 34 of them.
See the above links about the $100 bills. The only reason 95% of Americans never hold $100s is because you can't get them from an ATM. I have been using $100 bills at businesses for decades without trouble, so it isn't that people avoid them because they are too troublesome to spend. And the only reason that there are no more $500, $1000, $5000, and $10000 bills in the US is because the government decided that it doesn't want its citizens to be able to do significant financial transactions without creating metadata. That's because, in circumvention of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, it has mandated that every financial institution open up all the metadata that they have about their customers to any cop at any level who wants to look at them. It's all about mass surveillance, and cash reduces opportunities for mass surveillance. $100 bills are readily available in any bank. But a catch is that if you get out more than 100 of them at a time, or if the bank has any nebulous reason to suspect you of anything, then the bank is required to create even more intrusive metadata and directly report it to the Federal government without them even asking. Then the Treasury Dept and DEA troll through this "big data" about your finances, doing fishing expeditions in honest peoples' financial history. There is plenty of documentation of how this system is skewed to produce lawless authoritarian injustices; see for example: http://ij.org/issues/private-property/ http://ij.org/case/iowa-forfeiture/ http://ij.org/client/randy-sowers/ http://ij.org/client/ken-quran/ http://ij.org/client/terry-dehko-and-sandy-thomas/ http://ij.org/case/miforf/ http://ij.org/case/connecticut-forfeiture/ http://ij.org/case/long-island-forfeiture/ http://ij.org/case/san-diego-civil-forfeiture/ http://ij.org/ij-fbi-civil-forfeiture-violation-property-rights-not-tool-law-enforcement/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/ http://ij.org/case/philadelphia-forfeiture/ http://ij.org/press-release/state-federal-governments-must-improve-forfeiture-transparency/ From Fiscal Years 2002 through 2014, the City of Philadelphia seized and forfeited $50,440,292 in cash from tens of thousands of citizens, the vast majority of whom were never charged with a crime, let alone convicted of a crime. See: http://ij.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Amended.Complaint.pdf
Paper currency is also a key driver of illegal immigration and corruption.
As the above nest of links shows, there is a lot of corruption, mostly inside official government law-enforcement agencies. But paper currency wasn't the driver -- they are seizing bank accounts, cars, houses, and commercial properties as well as currency. Raw greed, unchecked power, and impunity for government employees is the real driver. Paper currency is also a key driver of legal migration. It's much simpler to pay in cash when you have moved to a place where nobody knows you, you don't have a home address yet, you don't have a local bank account or a job yet, you barely speak the language, your assets are in properties or accounts that aren't liquid in the location you have moved to, etc. But it's popular to bash "immigrants" these days, though of course every "immigrant" is also an "emigrant" and a "migrant". And the United States benefits greatly from all the migrants that come here -- legally and illegally. Without them, our population would be shrinking, our crops untended, our universities only half filled with outstanding students, and our businesses lacking energetic and inspired leaders. (But I'm prejudiced -- I've worked in so many successful businesses founded by migrants, like Sun Microsystems where two of the founders were a German and an Indian; Cygnus Support where one founder was Australian.) Paper currency is also a key driver of freedom. But what government (and what Harvard economist Professor of Public Policy) is a fan of freedom? Stamping out other peoples' activities that they disagree with is far more important to these people than abstract philosophical concepts like "freedom". John ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/18849915-ae8fa580 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-aa268125 Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-32545cb4&post_id=20170203192955:09B1F8F8-EA71-11E6-845D-E6B5BCDDB970 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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