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Re New Trump Deportation Rules


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:53:20 -0500

As I said I present all sides


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From: "RJR-rjriley" <rjr () rjriley com>
Date: February 22, 2017 at 4:49:30 PM EST
To: <dave () farber net>
Subject: RE: [IP] New Trump Deportation Rules

There is no reason that we cannot speed up legit immigration, from more desirable sources.  Also, we can issue work 
permits without an easy path to citizenship.  We also need to change birthright citizenship to one requiring one 
parent to be a citizen or to be naturalized before their child turns 18, and then confer citizenship to the child.
 
For example, there are lots of people in Europe, well educated, with desirable skills who would love to flee the 
problems created by Muslims who refuse to assimilate.
 
There is no innate right to be Allowed into America.
 
Ronald J Riley
 
From: Dave Farber [mailto:farber () gmail com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 1:31 PM
To: ip
Subject: [IP] New Trump Deportation Rules
 



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From: "Evers Ridgely C." <rce () evers org>
Date: February 22, 2017 at 1:17:57 PM EST
To: Farber David <dave () farber net>
Subject: New Trump Deportation Rules

Dave,
 
For IP if you wish.
 
New Trump Deportation Rules Allow Far More Expulsions
 
This is remarkably (terrifyingly?) sweeping in its construct.  From the actual order (italics mine):
 
Department personnel should prioritize removable aliens who:
(1) have been convicted of any criminal offense; 
(2) have been charged with any criminal offense that has not been resolved;
(3) have committed acts which constitute a chargeable criminal offense;
(4) have engaged in fraud or willful misrepresentation in connection with any official matter before a governmental 
agency;
(5) have abused any program related to receipt of public benefits;
(6) are subject to a final order of removal but have not complied with their legal obligation to depart the United 
States; or
(7) in the judgment of an immigration officer, otherwise pose a risk to public safety or national security.
The Director of ICE, the Commissioner of CBP, and the Director of USCIS may, as they determine is appropriate, issue 
further guidance to allocate appropriate resources to prioritize enforcement activities within these categories - 
for example, by prioritizing enforcement activities against removable aliens who are convicted felons or who are 
involved in gang activity or drug trafficking.
Note that being in the US without permission is a "chargeable criminal offense" (condition #3)  Basically, 
therefore, this tasks ICE with kicking out pretty much everyone who is undocumented, with the exception of DREAMers.
 
I live in an agricultural area, where the vast majority of workers are immigrants, mostly undocumented.  Many have 
children born in the US, who have US citizenship but not Mexican citizenship (for example), so the children cannot 
just "go to Mexico."
 
The families are terrified that they will be separated – and not without evidence to support that fear.  We know 
people who, in the past two weeks, have had a parent targeted, arrested, and deported without hearing.
 
–Ridge

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