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Re Former Facebook exec says social media is ripping apart society


From: "DAVID FARBER" <dfarber () me com>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 11:00:58 -0500



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From: Danny Weitzner <djweitzner () csail mit edu>
Subject: Re: [IP] Former Facebook exec says social media is ripping apart society
Date: December 12, 2017 at 10:03:36 AM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>

I'm sure this reflects a well-intentioned guilty conscience, but it strikes me as the height of techno-determinism 
and Silicon Valley self-importance to believe that the flaws in this medium are at the heart of the tensions in our 
social fabric. Does anyone really believe that but for FB and other social media we would be having an easy time 
managing:

1/massive economic dislocation, deep-seated tensions in gender relations, 

2/culture war version X between the parts of the country that 'want to make America great again' by retreating from 
the world and turning their backs on diversity and tolerance, versus those parts of the country (not defined any more 
by just Red States and Blue ones) 

3/huge gaps between those who accept science and reason versus those who distrust even well-supported scientific 
results if the origin is an elite university

I'd remind everyone that in the 2008 election, may of the now critics of Facebook etc gave those networks credit for 
the election of our first African-American president over the presumptive Democratic nominee. 

Social networks as a medium are highly imperfect and should be more responsibly managed by the owners and regulated 
when they come into contract with the campaign finance and advertising arenas. But we have bigger problems than 
'like' buttons and 143+ character messages.

Danny

-- 
Daniel J. Weitzner, Principal Research Scientist
MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Lab
Director, MIT Internet Policy Research Initiative <https://internetpolicy.mit.edu/>
Tel: +1 617 253 8036

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 1:14 AM DAVID FARBER <dfarber () me com <mailto:dfarber () me com>> wrote:



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Subject: Former Facebook exec says social media is ripping apart society

Former Facebook exec says social media is ripping apart society
‘No civil discourse, no cooperation; misinformation, mistruth.’
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/11/16761016/former-facebook-exec-ripping-apart-society 
<https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/11/16761016/former-facebook-exec-ripping-apart-society>

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living as The Truth is True
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-- 
Daniel J. Weitzner, Principal Research Scientist 
MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Lab
Director, Internet Policy Research Initiative
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