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Re: Mythbusting the Obama Magic
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:13:04 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: "John S. Quarterman" <jsq () quarterman org> Date: January 3, 2010 4:41:37 PM EST To: dave () farber net Cc: "John S. Quarterman" <jsq () quarterman org>, "ip" <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Mythbusting the Obama Magic
From: Esther Dyson <edyson () edventure com> Date: January 3, 2010 11:46:47 AM EST To: dave () farber net Cc: Micah Sifry <msifry () gmail com> Subject: Re: [IP] Mythbusting the Obama MagicInteresting stuff, but there is something to consider that is also lost in the fog. [[FWIW, I was one of those first-time voters, for Obama.] Obama running for president *was* at the head of a movement, mostly of volunteers, and properly so. As for the "movement," it may need better leaders now, but Obama should not be one of them. As president, Obama is president of *all* the people; half of those who voted "volunteered" the other way. It's a tough thing, being president of a whole country.
Esther has a good point, however he was also elected with a mandate to do some things (end the war in Iraq, close gitmo, health care reform, etc.) and he could better use his previous organization to get those things done. That doesn't have to mean discounting those who don't agree with him. It does mean not disparaging those who got him elected. As Brock points out, Rahm Emanuel is a big part of the problem, because he seems to have no use for anyone to the left of, oh, Lieberman. And most of the country is to the left of Lieberman, including most of the people who spent huge amounts of time and money getting Obama elected. Another part is that the successor organization, OFA, now under DNC, is, ah, a trifle top-down for a supposed grass-roots organization. Ditching Howard "50 state strategy" Dean as head of the DNC was a mistake. Dean + DNC + OFA might have gotten the job done more effectively.
As president you have to try to reach them all... or at least not offend them by reaching out to only half of them. That's easier said than done, and there has been way too much compromise (and votes in exchange for constituency favors). I don;t think Obama ever made a really effective case for health reform until it was way too late.
Another thing Obama has learned very slowly is that the current "opposition" party isn't interested in actually engaging. Zero, none, zilch, nada of them voted for the Senate's health care bill even after it had been repeatedly watered down in the name of bipartisanship and compromise. There's reaching across the aisle, and there's pulling your hand back when it repeatedly gets bitten. FDR didn't wait on the opposition party to approve what he was doing. He actively welcomed their hatred. And got re-elected with even bigger majorities in the House and Senate. Much of the lasting New Deal legislation came from after that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksTHQo8Q78 "We know now that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob. ... "We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace--business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering. "They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. "Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred." --FDR, 31 Oct 1936
So I'd like to see a discussion of the challenges of governing and inspiring a divided country, as well as how you keep a movement going now that it won one goal - electing a president - but still needs to rally round others of much greater complexity. Health reform comes in many shapes, most of them suboptimal.. Winning an election does not mean winner takes all. Thank god for that. The movement got him elected, but now he needs to lead the country.
Which also means using the mandate we gave him, not "compromising" it away to people who are only interested in seeing him fail. What can be done? Alan Grayson is doing some of it, for example, including actively using online communications not only to raise money but also to thank those who vote for bills he supports. -jsq ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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