Re: Good read Yale switching to Google Apps / Gmail

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: "Wendy M. Grossman" <wendyg () pelicancrossing net>
Date: February 10, 2010 3:59:45 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] re Yale switching to Google Apps / Gmail
Reply-To: wendyg () pelicancrossing net

(For IP if you wish)

I looked into this a bit in December 2008 while I was writing a report for (several layers up the food chain) a British 
govt agency outlining the business case for switching to Webmail. What I learned:

- the standard Gmail license claims all intellectual property in everything posted to the service. Many universities 
are concerned about this and some ban their research staff from using Gmail as a result.

- however, universities can and do negotiate different ToS when Gmail/Hotmail is taking over their email provision. So 
at least some universities feel that signing up with Gmail/Hotmail is a *better* situation than the one they're in now, 
where profs and students forward stuff to their (consumer) Gmail/Hotmail accounts from their university accounts 
despite being told they shouldn't do this.

Some comments from the University of Westminster (scroll to end of page) about the risks:
http://www.wmin.ac.uk/page-16541

- universities and other educational systems are going for Hotmail/Gmail in droves because of the massive cost savings 
coupled with the ability to give their staff/students far better service (and service that said staff and students are 
used to at home). Even Cornell, one of the email pioneers, has now switched and is offering students their choice of 
Hotmail or Gmail.

- Rebecca Gould and Elizabeth Unger of Kansas State University, have argued (I think persuasively) that the most 
logical course is for universities to get out of the business of offering students email. They suggest limiting it to 
staff, and giving students access to a secure portal instead. 
http://connect.educause.edu/Library/EDUCAUSE+Review/ASolutionLookingforaProbl/46614?time=1227745742

wg
www.pelicancrossing.net

Dave Farber wrote:
> Wonder who?  Djf Begin forwarded message:
> > *From:* Roger Dannenberg <rbd () cs cmu edu <mailto:rbd () cs cmu edu>>
> > *Date:* February 10, 2010 3:15:12 PM EST
> > *To:* <mailto:dave () farber net>dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net>
> > *Cc:* ip <ip () v2 listbox com <mailto:ip () v2 listbox com>>, <mailto:adikamdar () gmail com>adikamdar () gmail com 
> > <mailto:adikamdar () gmail com>
> > *Subject:* *Re: [IP] Yale switching to Google Apps / Gmail*
> >
> > [for IP if you wish]
> >
> > I don't want to name names, but the Gmail license agreement is used by a distinguished law professor in his class as 
> > an example of something you should stay away from.
> >
> > -Roger
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