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re AT&T forcing data plan changes
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:38:46 -0500
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From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: February 8, 2010 2:10:39 PM EST To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] AT&T forcing data plan changes
The basic mobile phone authentication sequence provides all the information necessary for the carrier to determine the phone type, without inspection of the user data stream per se. And the term "unlimited" in reference to data plans has become decimated in usefulness -- thanks to ISPs (mobile especially, but increasingly landline as well) who really use the term now to mean "unlimited until you exceed our arbitrary data usage ceiling" (in the mobile space, as assigned to that particular type of phone or class of device). This is a fundamental part of the carrier profit center "shell game." By mixing and matching different "base" fees, data plan requirements, and early termination fees, carriers assure themselves of specific income streams over various periods of time. If the consumer is confused into paying for more than what they need or will ever use -- well, them's the breaks, right? As for the argument that "unlimited" in a mobile data or landline ISP tier definition has anything to do with "unlimited connect time" rather than the amount of user data actually flowing -- that's just utter nonsense. By that line of reasoning, your local power company could promote "unlimited service!" simply because your home is always connected to the grid. Even the most non-techie of broadband users aren't going to fall for that sort of word game. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, GCTIP - Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance - http://www.gctip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurenweinstein - - - On 02/08 13:40, Dave Farber wrote:Begin forwarded message:From: Chris Kantarjiev <cak () dimebank com> Date: February 8, 2010 1:01:26 PM EST To: dave () farber net Subject: AT&T forcing data plan changesDave, for IP if you wish:Last Saturday morning, I was awakened early by an SMS to my phone. Itwas from AT&T Wireless, saying "Did you know a data plan is required for your Smartphone? Call 611 for details."This was shortly followed by another: "Your Smartphone requires a data plan. For convenience, we have added a minimum plan to your phone. Call611 4 info." I found this quite puzzling, since I already had an unlimited dataplan on my account, and have for quite some time, since I first got a Cingular 5125 "smartphone" - I've been using wireless data for about 5years, and had slowly moved up from a 5MB/month plan to unlimited. I didn't call 611, but instead went my account page at the AT&T Wireless website. When I looked at my feature list, I saw that theyhad moved me from my pre-existing $15/month unlimited data plan to the$30/month "Smartphone personal" unlimited data plan ... and that the $15/month plan is still highlighted as "recommended". (I tried switching back to the $15/month plan, but received the same set of text messages again in under an hour.)The light began to dawn. For the past month or so, I've been borrowing a Nexus One to see what it's like. I simply inserted my AT&T SIM intothe phone and started using it. I am probably using more data than I used to, but 'unlimited' seems like it should have covered this? Apparently AT&T is doing some sort of inspection of the data stream. Their latest terms of service say If it is determined that you are using an iPhone or other designated smartphone without an eligible data plan, AT&T reserves the right to add an eligible data plan to your account and bill you the appropriate monthly fee. Hmm. And just how are they determining this, I have to wonder? Chris Kantarjiev Palo Alto, CA------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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