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Google enlists NSA to fight off cyberattacks


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:50:43 -0500





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From: James Brenton <jbrenton () austin rr com>
Date: February 4, 2010 8:30:40 AM EST
To: dave () farber net, 'ip' <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: [IP] Google enlists NSA to fight off cyberattacks


Dave,



Wow—now this is a surprise. Not that it is happening, but that the knowledge made it to the public: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35231454/ns/technology_and_science-washington_post/



Under an agreement that is still being finalized, the National Security Agency would help Google analyze a major corporate espionage attack that the firm said originated in China and targeted its computer networks, according to cybersecurity experts familiar with the matter. The objective is to better defend Google — and its users — from future attack.



Google and the NSA declined to comment on the partnership. But sources with knowledge of the arrangement, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the alliance is being designed to allow the two organizations to share critical information without violating Google's policies or laws that protect the privacy of Americans' online communications. The sources said the deal does not mean the NSA will be viewing users' searches or e-mail accounts or that Google will be sharing proprietary data.



Best Regards,

Jim Brenton

jbrenton () austin rr com

jbrenton () ercot com



From: Dave Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:10 PM
To: ip
Subject: [IP] reThe balance of power in airport security screening







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From: Jay Goodman Tamboli <jay () tamboli cx>
Date: February 3, 2010 3:11:35 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] The balance of power in airport security screening

On Feb 3, 2010, at 08:06, Gordon Syme wrote:



According to http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8490860.stm passengers

'selected' to be scanned by the full-body scanners (the article does not

specify if they are X-ray or not) have no choice, they must either

submit to the scan or not fly. There is no alternative pat-down or

similar.


It's actually worse than that in some parts of the US. According to a 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling in August 2007, you don't have a right even to turn around and leave once you've entered the screening process. If you're selected for a body scan and say you'd rather not fly, the TSA has the right to detain you and screen you anyway. The case is United States v. Aukai, and it's described at http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2007/08/court-says-trav/ .

/jgt
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