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re AT&T: FCC has never had regulatory power over broadband


From: Dave Farber <dfarber () me com>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:53:04 -0400





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From: George Ou <George.Ou () digitalsociety org>
Date: April 14, 2010 1:36:52 PM EDT
To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net>, Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>, "lsnewmanjr () yahoo com" 
<lsnewmanjr () yahoo com>
Cc: Richard Bennett <richard () bennett com>
Subject: RE: [IP] AT&T: FCC has never had regulatory power over broadband


The FCC had never had Title II powers over broadband on the IP layer (Layer 3).  What they had was price regulation 
powers (Title II) over DSL transport (Layer 2) through the use of ATM PVCs in the DSLAM up until 2005.  The FCC had 
regulated wholesale prices of the sharing of twisted pair and DSLAMs.

 

In July 2005, the FCC won the “Brand X” case affirming its 2002 ruling that freed Cable Broadband from Title II.  In 
August 2005, the FCC went further and freed DSL transport from Title II classification and no longer regulated 
wholesale prices for DSL transport.

 

 

What the Open Internet Coalition and others are now is asking is that the FCC should regulate broadband on all levels 
under Title II such that its actions on Comcast and its NPRM can be justified.  That would have to include layer 3 IP 
services, Internet transit, IP interconnect (peering), and maybe even CDN.  But from what I am reading, the FCC is 
limited in power to regulate prices even on things like Video on Demand, so I can’t see how they would justify price 
regulating the whole darn Internet and everything it encompasses.  I mean can the FCC regulate the price of Amazon’s 
virtual “Elastic Cloud” servicers?

 

 

 

 

George Ou

 

From: Dave Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:56 AM
To: ip
Subject: [IP] AT&T: FCC has never had regulatory power over broadband

 





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From: Stagg Newman <lsnewmanjr () yahoo com>
Date: April 14, 2010 8:50:37 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net, ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] AT&T: FCC has never had regulatory power over broadband

The FCC has regulated Frame Relay, ATM, and SONET and other high speed private line services as Title II services.

Those service are in the family of broadband services.

 

The FCC did not regulate Internet service as Title II.

 

There is a deft change in the email below from broadband to Internet.  They are not synonymns.

 

From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
To: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 4:58:38 PM
Subject: [IP] AT&T: FCC has never had regulatory power over broadband



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From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks)
Date: April 12, 2010 2:44:14 PM EDT
To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] AT&T: FCC has never had regulatory power over broadband

AT&T: FCC has never had regulatory power over broadband
The Hill
By Kim Hart

AT&T lobbyist Hank Hultquist disputes that the FCC ever had the authority over broadband that it seeks today.

His comments in a blog post fuel the fast-growing fight over whether the FCC can or should reclassify broadband as a 
"Title II" service, rather than the "Title I" service it is today. The D.C. Circuit clearly said last week that the 
FCC cannot impose net neutrality rules with the current classification.

A host of legal experts and lobbyists have made the case that the FCC should be able to revert back to Title II, 
since the agency used to have regulatory authority over DSL and other broadband services until 2002, when they were 
reclassified as Title I.

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