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Europe Moves to Winter Time, U.S. Changes Clocks Next Weekend


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:00:18 -0400



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From: "Bob Frankston" <bob2 () bob frankston com>
Date: October 25, 2009 3:06:02 PM EDT
To: <dave () farber net>, "'ip'" <ip () v2 listbox com>
Cc: <jspira () basex com>
Subject: RE: [IP] Europe Moves to Winter Time, U.S. Changes Clocks Next Weekend

Turkey did the switch at 4AM this morning (Sunday Oct 25th). This had an interesting side-effect as I was flying from Shanghai to Istanbul during the transition. I wondered why the plane was reporting time an hour later than I had set my watch to but it also showed us landing an hour late. Turns out, of course, that the plane was correct about the takeoff time but wrong about the landing time.

I can understand getting this wrong – it’s the kind of thing the program (or programmer) just doesn’t deal with (same as a good UI on the per-seat user interface for the screen). Another related problem with calendar events is that the syntax doesn’t have good ways to deal with rich time representation. How can I say the meeting is 2PM in Istanbul and doesn’t change when the daylight changes? And is an all day meeting really all day or should the end points change?

More fun is when you have multiple operating systems and reboot and each tries to correct for DST. I pushed for putting the time zone in the nonvolatile RAM rather than in the OS but I didn’t convince people.

It’s a reminder of why Y2K wasn’t a big deal as these kind of issues are endemic but not a big deal because we take them in stride and don’t pile them on top of each other.

It’s also a reminder why the leap second is so incredibly stupid – time is approximate to the nearest hour and we care about nanosecond precision? And China has just one time zone – I’d like to understand more about how that works in practice.

Well enough for now – my body is zoning out …



From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 08:29
To: ip
Subject: [IP] Europe Moves to Winter Time, U.S. Changes Clocks Next Weekend



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From: jspira () basex com
Date: October 24, 2009 8:27:12 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Europe Moves to Winter Time, U.S. Changes Clocks Next Weekend


Dave

Important reminder for all IPers to keep in mind:

Europe Moves to Winter Time, U.S. Changes Clocks Next Weekend

Europe set its clocks back one hour to “winter time” at 1 a.m. GMT Sunday. Next Sunday morning, while most people are still asleep, the United States and parts of Canada will switch back to Standard Time at 2 a.m. local time. <SNIP>

Complete look at daylight saving time at http://www.basexblog.com/2009/10/24/daylight-savings-time-2009/

Regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Szívélyes üdvözlet/Cordialement/ Cordiali saluti/Saludos/Vänliga hälsningar

/s/ Jonathan
Jonathan B. Spira
CEO and Chief Analyst
Basex, Inc.
8 http://www.basex.com


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