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Re: TSA mission creep now policy


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:01:04 -0500



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From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com>
Date: November 9, 2009 6:11:53 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] TSA mission creep now policy

I continue to wonder if there is any scientific evidence that would show that terrorists can be detected by signs of 
"stress".

Of course, it could be worse, Iraqi checkpoints are manned by  trained "dowsers" and their professional security 
organizations have sworn by devices that use such "dowsing" to detect bombs in cars from a distance. 
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/11/04/2340204/Iraq-Swears-By-Dowsing-Rod-Bomb-Detector

So I guess we can assume that the US "behavior specialists" are credentialed based on something other than deeply held 
beliefs in the powers of human observation and gut feelings.  And I'm sure they would never be biased by mode of dress, 
facial hair, or skin color.   After all, TV shows are based on the idea that there are people who can be trained to 
"read minds" by studying bodily gestures.  And TV Shows are always right, right?

On 11/09/2009 03:49 PM, David Farber wrote:



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From: "David Lesher" <wb8foz () panix com> 
Date: November 9, 2009 12:05:32 PM EST 
To: dave () farber net (David Farber) 
Subject: TSA mission creep now policy 

Prof. F: 

Remember the blowup when TSA detained Ron Paul volunteer Steve Bierfeldt 
because he was caught carrying {gasp!} cash on board an aircraft? 

Much of the controversy was because TSA is *not* a credentialed law 
enforcement agency; and seeing as how it's rather hard to hijack an 
aircraft with dollar bills & quarters, such money is not in their 
mandate. Official TSA responses never really addressed that. 

Well, per Monday's WashPost, TSA has decided that more mission creep is 
to their advantage. 

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/08/AR2009110817898_pf.html> 

At U.S. airports, TSA officers covertly monitor travelers' behavior 


   FORT LAUDERDALE, FLA. -- You might not see them, but they're studying you. 

   To identify potentially dangerous individuals, the Transportation 
   Security Administration has stationed specially trained 
   behavior-detection officers at 161 U.S. airports. The officers may be 
   positioned anywhere, from the parking garage to the gate, trying to spot 
   passengers who show an unusual level of nervousness or stress. 

   They do not focus on nationality, race, ethnicity or gender, said TSA 
   spokeswoman Sari Koshetz. 

   "We're not looking for a type of person, but at behaviors," she said. 

   Under the program, which started in Boston in 2003, a suspicious 
   passenger might be given a secondary security screening or referred to 
   police; detection officers do not have arrest powers. 

   Last year, officers nationwide required 98,805 passengers to undergo 
   additional screenings.  Police questioned 9,854 of them and arrested 813. 


The article goes on to cite multiple incidents of people arrested for various 
crimes but NOT ONE was mentioned that had anything to do with aircraft security. 

I have to wonder how long before TSA is also detaining deadbeat dads and three-strikes 
parking ticket offenders.... 





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