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Re: Republicans propose data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi users
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:31 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: "David S. Isenberg (isen)" <isen () isen com> Date: February 20, 2009 8:34:30 AM EST To: dave () farber netSubject: Re: [IP] Republicans propose data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi users
Dave, If we had IPv6, we wouldn't need no stinking temporary addresses, because IPv6 has approximately enough permanent addresses for every atom in the universe. Then "they" would know which IP address did which communication, and we'd get a symmetrical Internet where the distinction between client and server would be moot. Not sure if this tradeoff between safety and liberty is worth it, I'm just saying that in this case we get a little liberty *back* in the trade too. David I ------------------ 203-661-4798 (main number, follows me everywhere) 888-isen.com (toll free) 508-548-5924 (Woods Hole) AIM, Skype, Y!IM: david_isenberg http://isen.com/blog http://freedom-to-connect.net ------------------ On Feb 20, 2009, at 3:37 AM, David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> Date: February 20, 2009 2:09:30 AM EST To: dave () farber netSubject: Republicans propose data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi usersDave, IPers may be interested in my article from this evening: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10168114-38.htmlRepublican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal law that would require all Internet providers and operators of millions of WiFi access points, even hotels, local coffeeshops, and home users, to keep records about users for two years to aid police investigations... Translated, the Internet SAFETY Act applies not just to AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, and so on -- but also to the tens of millions of homes with WiFi access points that use the standard method of dynamically assigning temporary addresses.The relevant bills: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00436: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h.r.01076:It's unclear why Sen. Cornyn and Rep. Smith want to target home WiFi users (plus companies, universities, schools, libraries). Smith has been at this data retention thing for over two years now, so he's had time to get it exactly right:http://news.cnet.com/2100-1028_3-6156948.htmlBefore Democrats start bemoaning how censorial the Republicans are, let's remember affection for data retention laws is a bipartisan sentiment. The first politician in the U.S. Congress to draft such legislation was a Democrat (Diana DeGette).And the current attorney general, Eric Holder, said this when he was previously at DOJ: "Certain data must be retained by ISPs for reasonable periods of time so that it can be accessible to law enforcement." (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/dagceos.html)-Declan ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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