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Re: withold password, go to jail


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:26:52 -0400



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From: Nicholas Bohm <nbohm () ernest net>
Date: August 12, 2009 5:53:48 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] withold password, go to jail
Reply-To: nbohm () ernest net

Dave Farber wrote:





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From: David Magda <dmagda () ee ryerson ca>
Date: August 11, 2009 12:21:41 PDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: withold password, go to jail

For IP?

"The Register" is reporting that two people in the UK have been convicted under Section 49 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA),
Part III:

Two people have been successfully prosecuted for refusing to provide
authorities with their encryption keys, resulting in landmark convictions
that may have carried jail sentences of up to five years. [...]

Sir Christopher [Rose] reported that all of the [fifteen] section 49
notices served over the year--including the two that resulted in
convictions--were in "counter terrorism, child indecency and domestic
extremism" cases.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/11/ripa_iii_figures/

It may be prudent to follow Bruce Schneier's advice and create a random key on a USB stick and mail it someone else, so you can honestly say you
don't know the key:

There's another solution, one that works with whole-disk encryption
products like PGP Disk (I'm on PGP's advisory board), TrueCrypt, and
BitLocker: Encrypt the data to a key you don't know.

http://www.schneier.com/essay-279.html

Any legal scholars around? If you don't know the pass phrase to your
encrypted data, but do know where the key file is, can you withhold /that/
information from the police?

In the UK the answer is that you cannot withhold that information without committing an offence.

See section 50 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000:

(8) Where, in a case in which a disclosure requirement in respect of any protected information is imposed on any person by a section 49 notice-

(a) that person has been in possession of the key to that information but is no longer in possession of it,

(b) if he had continued to have the key in his possession, he would have been required by virtue of the giving of the notice to disclose it, and

(c) he is in possession, at a relevant time, of information to which subsection (9) applies,

the effect of imposing that disclosure requirement on that person is that he shall be required, in accordance with the notice imposing the requirement, to disclose all such information to which subsection (9) applies as is in his possession and as he may be required, in accordance with that notice, to disclose by the person to whom he would have been required to disclose the key.

(9) This subsection applies to any information that would facilitate the obtaining or discovery of the key or the putting of the protected information into an intelligible form.

Nicholas Bohm
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