Re: MUST READ -- Allow president "emergency powers" to turn off internet access?

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

I completely agree with David. My first reaction to this certification  
program was  "here we go yet again". Remember back to the days when  
Texas was proposing a certification program -- -- eight professional  
engineer  accreditation for software engineers. Most people I know  
sort was a very bad idea since the field itself was difficult to  
define   more or less test.

I would argue that a decent computer science undergraduate degree with  
an advanced course or two in computer security would provide a much  
much better training than any certification program.

Dave

Begin forwarded message:

From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com>
Date: August 28, 2009 7:49:08 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] MUST READ -- Allow president "emergency powers" to  
turn off internet access?

I think this would be amusing if it weren't sad.  The underlying  
assumption seems to be that "security" is something that can be taught  
separately from the underlying technology. Consider the idea that we  
would require that computer word processing programs be developed  
teams managed by "typing professionals".

If you want systems to be safe and secure, a certification program  
won't do a damn thing.  The smartest security folks around  on both  
sides don't take certification courses.

But it's a great "jobs program" for out-of-work DC defense consultants.

On 08/28/2009 06:18 PM, David Farber wrote:
> "Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification  
> program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that  
> certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be  
> managed by people who have been awarded that license. " from his  
> "views " article. good reading DJF
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
> Date: August 28, 2009 5:33:24 PM EDT
> To: Richard.Berlin () Sun COM
> Cc: dave () farber net
> Subject: Re: [IP] Allow president "emergency powers" to turn off  
> internet access?
>
> Rich,
>
> The current concern is *not* about the original version of S.773 on  
> Thomas, which was introduced on April 1.
>
> My piece this morning on CBS News discussed Sen. Rockefeller's  
> revised version, which is dated August 19. I obtained a copy and put  
> an excerpt here:
> http://www.politechbot.com/docs/rockefeller.revised.cybersecurity.draft.082709.pdf
>
> You can read my article here, including views from folks with a good  
> understanding who did weigh in:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/28/taking_liberties/entry5270834.shtml
>
> -Declan
>
>
> David Farber wrote:
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > From: Richard Berlin <Richard.Berlin () Sun COM>
> > Date: August 28, 2009 2:09:22 PM EDT
> > To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> > Subject: S.773: Allow president "emergency powers" to turn off  
> > internet access?
> > For IP:
> > I haven't seen anything here about S.773
> >  http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.773:
> > but the Internet is starting to light up with semi-informed  
> > opinions.   Section 18 concerns emergency provisions, and appears  
> > to be the primary source of concern.
> > Was wondering if someone here with a good understanding is ready to  
> > weigh in?
> > Thanks,
> > -- Rich 
>
>
>
>
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