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Re: Dept. of Justice won't classify proxies as 'sophisticated'


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:09:58 -0400



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From: Seth David Schoen <schoen () loyalty org>
Date: April 17, 2009 1:31:05 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Cc: Victor Marks <victormarks () gmail com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Dept. of Justice won't classify proxies as 'sophisticated'

David Farber writes:

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From: Victor Marks <victormarks () gmail com>
Date: April 17, 2009 8:55:02 AM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Dept. of Justice won't classify proxies as 'sophisticated'

Use a proxy, go to jail.

When proxies are outlawed, only outlaws will have proxies.

Just to clarify, the entity that made this ruling is the U.S. Sentencing
Commission, not the Department of Justice.  The Department of Justice
supported the proposed amendment, which I testified against before the
Sentencing Commission.

The Commission (and the Department of Justice) also emphasized that the
proposed amendment wouldn't have made using a proxy illegal.  But it
would have recommended punishing people more harshly when they used a
proxy while committing a crime.  You can read the testimony and
questions about this at

http://www.ussc.gov/AGENDAS/20090317/Agenda.htm
http://www.ussc.gov/AGENDAS/20090317/Transcript.pdf

We were Panel One.  There's a lot of material there.

--
Seth David Schoen <schoen () loyalty org> | Wol dir, werlt, daz du bist
    http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/   | also freudenriche!
    http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/     |           -- Carmina Burana




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