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Re: The Whack-A-Mole Method of Ending Hate In Our Time


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:18:42 -0700

Dave and I agree djf

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From: David P. Reed [dpreed () reed com]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:07 AM
To: David Farber
Cc: ip
Subject: Re: [IP] The Whack-A-Mole Method of Ending Hate In Our Time

May I suggest that corporations don't have inherent "rights"?
Corporations are created by a process under law that creates an entity
that has a finite set of explicit rights, along with a requirement that
they fulfill a set of explicit *responsibilities* in return.

Anthropomorphizing corporations such as "registrars" does not help
resolve controversy.  It just adds irrelevant miscommunications to a melee.

The cited "right" of a corporation to decide with whom it chooses to do
business is not a true "right".  And corporations are not "free"
entities - they are inherently bound by the rules under which they are
constructed (be that in the State of Delaware or under King George [he
of the infamous tax on tea]).

All *men* are endowed with certain inalienable rights.  Corporations are
not.

David Farber wrote:
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From: John Berryhill [john () johnberryhill com]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:11 AM
To: David Farber
Subject: The Whack-A-Mole Method of Ending Hate In Our Time

Clearly whatever it is that Dutch politician Geert Wilders wants to talk
about in his film is going to be the end of the internet.  The news that
Network Solutions decided to pre-empt his use of a domain name registered
through them for the purpose of promoting his film need not be re-hashed
here.

However, before bemoaning yet another registrar freely deciding, as is its
right, with whom it chooses to do business, it's important to look at the
big picture.  No, it is not "censorship" for Network Solutions to decide how
it wants its services to be used.  There are a number of internet registrars
all over the world, and as recently demonstrated with Enom having been
notified by the US State Department that, yes, the OFAC SDN list means
something, one might do well to select one's registrar based in part on an
understanding of the legal climate where that registrar is located.

But, perhaps we might understand Network Solutions policy more clearly by
looking at domain names registered through NSI which freely promote killing
Muslims rather than merely making films about them.  Take for example the
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Elam, affectionately the Tamil Tigers - a nearly
universally recognized terrorist group perhaps best known for the
assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, but which has engaged in far more numerous
outright massacres in predominately Muslim areas of Sri Lanka.

The Tamil Tigers maintain at least two, if not more, domain names through
Network Solutions - eelam.com and eelamweb.com.  Here, one can learn the
answers to all of your frequently asked questions about ethnic cleansing
such as at: http://www.eelamweb.com/faq/ which states "Muslims have been
asked to leave the Tamil Eelam territory until the independence of Tamil
Eelam."  This polite request is normally made at gunpoint during operations
of the Tamil Tigers.

So, the takeaway from these two actions of Network Solutions: (1)
prohibiting an NSI domain name to be used to promote an anti-Muslim film,
and (2) permitting two NSI domain names to be used to promote the mass
eviction and murder of Muslims in Sri Lanka; indicates that one needs to
apply a balanced perspective of how NSI would like its domain name services
to be used, before making rash judgments of alleged "bias".  If the
continued operation of eelam.com and eelamweb.com is any indication, NSI's
view would appear to be that Mr. Wilders just isn't going far enough.

Next up, the Islamic Army of Iraq, and their Louisiana brigade, courtesy of
iaisite.info, registered through Directnic.



John Berryhill, Ph.d., Esq.
4 West Front St.
Media, PA  19063
(610) 565-5601
(267) 386-8115 fax




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