Re: The 15-petabyte network and the atom smasher {as usual the title is hype djf}

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Andrew C Burnette [acb () acb net]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:44 AM
To: David Farber
Cc: bobr () bobrosenberg phoenix az us
Subject: Re: [IP] The 15-petabyte network and the atom smasher {as usual the title is hype djf}

Dave,

It bears noting that almost all (prime example: a large sport broadcast
network) video production has already moved to pure IP, and those
facilities/campuses/etc have already been wired [for years] with
numerous parallel 10Gig links to handle the traffic.  They're already
begging for 40/100G links and will buy them as soon as practical. They
need the bandwidth not only for raw source processing and production,
but handling the numerous compression requirements of their downstream
transport customers (e.g. satellite, cable, OTA)

It should also be noted that most cable MSO's and folks like Verizon
(like them or not) are moving 10G (per wavelength) capable fiber closer
and closer to US homes, at least on the east coast.  The irony being
that my own FIOS "MoCa" connection from the ONU typically locks in at
about 250Mbps symmetrical most days of the week. Now, technically, I'm
simply sharing a 2.5Gbps/1.25Gbps downlink/uplink with 31 neighbors, but
I'm happy to share.

Commercial networks [to the end user] can catch up. Simple difference in
the will to deploy and wallstreets next quarter expectations are only
one source of the problem.

Cheers,
andy



David Farber wrote:
> ________________________________________
> From: bobr () bobrosenberg phoenix az us [bobr () bobrosenberg phoenix az us]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:50 AM
> To: David Farber
> Subject: C|Net News:  The 15-petabyte network and the atom smasher
>
> Dave
>
> Here's a little more 'gasoline' to throw on the Network Neutrality fire.
>
> "It may be less than two decades before commercial networks catch up: "Video and
> other media services are going to push the speed of consumer network connections up
> as the demand is going to be huge," Sansum said. "We were at today's speed of about
> 10Mbps about 10 to 15 years ago, so you could take that as a precedent for how long
> it will take for the commercial networks to catch up with us today.""
>
> Cheers,
> Bob
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>  The 15-petabyte network and the atom smasher
> By Nick Heath
> Published: July 15, 2008 1:30 PM PDT
> The 15-petabyte network and the atom smasher
> http://news.cnet.com/The-15-petabyte-network-and-the-atom-smasher/2100-1008_3-6243726.html
>
> Enough information to fill multiple CDs every second is flowing across the world on
> a network 1,000 times faster than home broadband.
>
> Terabytes of data are streaming through dedicated fiber-optic links between
> laboratories and universities globally in preparation for the world's largest
> particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider, being switched on in August at CERN
> in Geneva, Switzerland.
>
> The Large Hadron Collider Computing Grid (LCG), a super-high-bandwidth network, will
> channel about 15 petabytes--15 million gigabytes--of data from the LHC to about
> 5,000 scientists in 500 institutions every year for at least 10 years.
>
> The particle accelerator will smash subatomic particles, protons, into each other at
> 99 percent of the speed of light, spraying huge amounts of energy and particles into
> its detectors.
>
> The LCG will allow researchers to tap into the distributed processing power of
> almost 100,000 CPUs, crunching through vast amounts of data from the detectors and
> speeding their hunt for clues about the fundamental nature of the universe.
>
> Rutherford Appleton Laboratories, near Oxford, England, has a 10-gigabit connection
> to CERN capable of 1,250 megabits per second upstream and downstream that will pipe
> in almost-raw data from the collider via the U.K. part of the LCG--the GridPP.
>
> Andrew Sansum, tier one manager at RAL, said its connection with CERN is about 1,000
> times faster than the download speeds on a home broadband connection.
>
> It may be less than two decades before commercial networks catch up: "Video and
> other media services are going to push the speed of consumer network connections up
> as the demand is going to be huge," Sansum said. "We were at today's speed of about
> 10Mbps about 10 to 15 years ago, so you could take that as a precedent for how long
> it will take for the commercial networks to catch up with us today."
>
> <snip>
>
>
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