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Re: Premier (Diebold) admits to flaw that drops votes
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:48:40 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Cem Kaner <kaner () KANER COM> Date: August 23, 2008 1:30:31 PM EDT To: USACM () LISTSERV ACM ORG Subject: Re: Premier (Diebold) admits to flaw that drops votes Reply-To: Cem Kaner <kaner () KANER COM> If testing of these machines wasn't: (a) limited to captive test labs and captive testing consultants (b) with results protected by nondisclosure agreements Then we would have known about these bugs a long time ago. How manyelections have been decided by Diebold's bugs instead of by the voters? We will never know, because we are collaborating in building a technological system that actively prevents us from access to the relevant information.
Until we have public access to vital information, we will never have a reason to trust this technology. Or to trust any of the organizations orconsultants or standards developers involved in qualifying the technology.
Cem Kaner, J.D., Ph.D. Professor of Software Engineering, Florida Institute of Technology www.kaner.com www.testingeducation.org http://www.satisfice.com/kaner/
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