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WHY -- I would STRONGLY read and watch the activities of IPSphere
From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:00:57 -0500
THATS WHY I SAID WATCH IT. djf From: Bob Frankston [mailto:bob37-2 () bobf frankston com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:30 PM To: dave () farber net; ip () v2 listbox com Subject: RE: [IP] I would STRONGLY read and watch the activities of IPSphere Theres no need to read between the lines though its less blatant than the slides I cite in http://www.frankston.com/?name=AssuringScarcity. Its a cartel that recognizes that there should be a common infrastructure so far so good but that this infrastructure is owned as a private preserve by the cartel. The challenge is to taking peering to the next level and provide a way to divvy up the spoils, oops, I mean settle accounts: The IPsphere Framework is designed to support the whole spectrum of possible settlement scenarios all mine (Blll[sic] & Keep), all yours, or all ours (if stakeholders involved in the delivery of a particular service agreed to share in the revenue produced, to an agreed degree). Ours means theirs no room for the rest of us to participate. Seeing the broadcasters efforts to go directly to the user Hollywood and other content providers are outside this world even as they try to corral the traffic into their IPTV streams. They even acknowledge that the basic idea of telecom no longer makes sense: The drive behind the formation of the IPsphere Forum was the recognition that settlement flow does not correspond to traffic flow on the Internet, and thus does not provide a framework for viable investment across the spectrum of infrastructure. But theyre like the monkey with its hands in the cookie jar it cant remove the hand until it lets go of the cookies. In this case the blithely assume that they will retain total control of the physical infrastructure and unlike the cellular companies they arent explicit about the customers being their worst competition its as if they dont even understand that and only need to worry about negotiating with their peers. Im skeptical of whether this could work with naïve assumptions like Identity authentication and digital rights validation are carried out automatically. It sort of reminds me of my Masters Thesis back in 1974 on a similar topic but these people are taking it far far too seriously and dont acknowledge that there is no honor among these thieves. The danger is that this is another face of the IMS fantasy world in which all services converge around the carriers and they redouble their effort to maintain control while giving it a veneer of rationality. From: Dave Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 05:09 To: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: [IP] I would STRONGLY read and watch the activities of IPSphere http://www.ipsphereforum.org/ Read between the lines ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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