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Re: Bush administration proposal would criminalize 'attempted' copyright infringement


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:38:20 -0400



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From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden () nokia com>
Date: May 16, 2007 2:04:48 PM EDT
To: Charles Arthur <charles.arthur () gmail com>
Cc: David Farber <dave () farber net>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden () nokia com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Bush administration proposal would criminalize 'attempted' copyright infringement
Reply-To: bob.hinden () nokia com

Charles,

Life imprisonment is only one step away. So a hospital employee who uses pirated software (assuming this means that the DRM was subverted) will be punished in the same way that murders are punished.

No, that's wrong. You're missing out the key step of "reckless", which implies knowing that the product is bad but using it anyway.

Fair enough. But doesn't this imply that just the fact of using "pirated" software is reckless in itself? Why does this need to be called out in an copyright infringement bill? Using pirated software by itself is not necessarily reckless and there are many other actions that are also reckless that I don't think to each have a specific rule created.

Aren't other forms of reckless behavior that might cause death not punishable with life in prison? For example, a med tech where I live decided to reuse needles when taking blood. Her behavior may have caused some deaths and/or illnesses. She was convicted and served a few years in prison. Why is copyright infringement punishable with life imprisonment, but other forms of reckless behavior are not?

Bob


If you attempt to cause death with something, that's prima facie attempted murder. So - you want to kill patient A, who's on radiotherapy for cancer (say). The proper software won't let you give a lethal dose; you bring in your own version, or hack the proper version around (making it counterfeit, for legal purposes) so it can deliver a lethal dose. = "attempts to cause death with counterfeit products".

Conversely: you want to save the patient but your hospital doesn't have the dosimetry software. You install some radiation dosimetry software that you got from your cousin's uncle's brother's friend at the yard sale in the hope that it'll work, and the patient dies. That's reckless cause.

People hear "pirated software" and think Windows, but you're forgetting that software does a whole lot more in medicine these days. Read comp.risks if you've forgotten.

IANAL, but sometimes I can think a bit like one.

    best
    Charles

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