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Re: E-voting in Japan
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:48:57 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Geoff Kuenning <geoff () cs hmc edu> Date: May 28, 2007 8:31:21 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Cc: ip ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: Re: E-voting in Japan John Levine writes:
I wish that more people asked this question. Canada uses paper ballots, counts them by hand, and it works fine. Each polling place counts its ballots when the polls close, then they get the informal election eve numbers the same way everyone else does, by phoning them in to regional offices where they're added up on a spreadsheet.
As others have pointed out in the past, the U.S. has an unusually complex electoral system that makes counting much more difficult than in most other places. It's not instant-runoff and other complex counting methods that cause the trouble, it's the profusion of ballot measures and partially overlapping voting districts. A typical ballot in the U.S. includes 5 to 40 different votes. Some are statewide, some based on other political subdivisions such as county and city, while others are based on districts that have no relationship to any other subdivision. As well as the obvious city, county, and state (which are usually nicely subsetted), a voter can reside in a school district, a water district, a state assembly district, a state senatorial district, and a federal Congressional district, all over which overlap in essentially random ways. There can also be a judicial district, a special assessment district, a redevelopment district, and almost anything else you care to name. My own polling place sometimes has orange and green voting booths because people living in different parts of the city have different ballots. To make matters even more fun, each district has its own rules (for example, "vote for any three") that must be properly enforced during the counting process. It's certainly _possible_ to count ballots by hand, but it's inefficient, expensive, and slow. One could argue that it would be better to adopt the system used by some other countries, where the voter has to fill only one office, and parallelized hand counting can be completed in an evening. But that's not how things work in the U.S. right now. -- Geoff Kuenning geoff () cs hmc edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ Statistics don't bore people, people bore people. ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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