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Re: Avg broadband download speed in the US is 1.9 Mbps. It is 61 Mbps in Japan, 45 Mbps in South Korea, 18 Mbps in Sweden, 17 Mpbs in France, and 7 Mbps in Canada


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 17:42:11 -0400



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From: Marc Aniballi <marcaniballi () gmail com>
Date: May 22, 2007 5:38:05 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: RE: [IP] Re: Avg broadband download speed in the US is 1.9 Mbps. It is 61 Mbps in Japan, 45 Mbps in South Korea, 18 Mbps in Sweden, 17 Mpbs in France, and 7 Mbps in Canada

Dave;

I can't speak to the validity of these measurements; However, in Canada the highest "available" speed for DSL/Cable is 6 Mbps - so an average of 7 is a wonderful mathematical trick. I can also attest that on average, I get about
85% of my connection speed consistently (5 Mbps for me) which I find
impressive.

As for bandwidth validity - there are any number of sites that are a
community for broadband users to chat and compare notes etc. Try
grenouille.com (frog in French) where they track the "listed" bandwidth of each provider, by region, and then show actual speed test results by users
of that service in that region. You definitely get a sense of who is the
best deal where you are - and it isn't always one provider or another. Of
course Europe has a lot more options for broadband than your average
American or Canadian! A year ago (while in France) I was getting about
15Mbps throughput on my 25Mbps DSL line, but I strongly suspect that that was a function of the backbone and the servers, rather than a choke on my
end, because grenouille.com consistently showed me with 21-23 Mbps.

Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:53 AM
To: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: [IP] Re: Avg broadband download speed in the US is 1.9 Mbps. It is
61 Mbps in Japan, 45 Mbps in South Korea, 18 Mbps in Sweden, 17 Mpbs in
France, and 7 Mbps in Canada



Begin forwarded message:

From: Michael Kende <Michael.Kende () analysys com>
Date: May 22, 2007 10:30:03 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: RE: [IP] Avg broadband download speed in the US is 1.9 Mbps.
It is 61 Mbps in Japan, 45 Mbps in South Korea, 18 Mbps in Sweden, 17
Mpbs in France, and 7 Mbps in Canada

Dave,

The CWA in the cited congressional testimony have provided an apples and
oranges comparison.  For the US, they did extensive tests of actual
speeds to get the 1.9 Mbps number, but for the other countries they went
to a report that used advertised speeds.  What is disingenuous about
this is that in the ITIF report that they cited
(http://www.itif.org/files/BroadbandRankings.pdf), the US had an average
advertised download speed of 4.8 Mbps, but they ignored that in favor of
their lower actual speed.  We did a study (the results of which you
posted to this group several months ago) that gathered data on actual
download speeds in other countries, and found that the higher the
advertised speeds, in general the bigger the gap between actual and
advertised speeds, so some of the countries mentioned by the CWA have
significantly lower download speeds then the headlines listed here.

I raise this simply to point out that this appears to be an attempt to
mislead the audience about this issue, and is particularly ironic in a
testimony in which the President of the CWA states that "Good data is
the foundation of good policy." (in support of a bill on broadband
census taking)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: 22 May 2007 09:00
To: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: [IP] Avg broadband download speed in the US is 1.9 Mbps. It is
61 Mbps in Japan, 45 Mbps in South Korea, 18 Mbps in Sweden, 17 Mpbs in
France, and 7 Mbps in Canada



Begin forwarded message:

From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks)
Date: May 21, 2007 5:43:21 PM EDT
To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Avg broadband download speed in the US is 1.9
Mbps. It is 61 Mbps in Japan, 45 Mbps in South Korea, 18 Mbps in Sweden,
17 Mpbs in France, and 7 Mbps in Canada

[Note:  This item comes from reader Mike Cheponis.  DLH]

From: Mike Cheponis <mac () Wireless Com>
Date: May 21, 2007 12:07:48 AM PDT
To: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Subject: Avg broadband download speed in the US is 1.9 Mbps. It is 61
Mbps in Japan, 45 Mbps in South Korea, 18 Mbps in Sweden, 17 Mpbs in
France, and 7 Mbps in Canada

<http://pressesc.com/01179677598_us_internet_slow>


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