Re: Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com>
Date: March 15, 2007 2:03:07 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip () v2 listbox com, Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users

Intercept and block my outbound email connection?   Exactly how does  
this fix the problem?

The analogous concept would be to jail all black people, because a  
disproportionate number of crimes are committed by people of that  
skin color.

The pure thoughtlessness of supposedly intelligent human beings on  
how to solve problems amazes me.   Punishing everyone for the sins of  
a few (bots are not predominant) is a lazy form of thought.  And it's  
abusive.

Rather than have to defend my very normal need to do this against  
idiots, let's just vote them off the island.

David Farber wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
> Date: March 15, 2007 9:59:56 AM EDT
> To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> Cc: Monty Solomon <monty () roscom com>, Andrew Burnette <acb () acb net>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users
>
> > Ms. Lee is either running continuous p2p traffic, or has a completely
> > infested machine (not implausible, I've seen infected machines
> > generate as much as 40Mbps at a time).
>
> And that is one place where providers could not only free up some
> bandwidth, but could spare the rest of us the ongoing flood of abuse.
> Just blocking outbound port 25 connections would provide substantial
> relief -- locally (and elsewhere), >90% of inbound spam is coming
> from zombie'd systems on broadband providers.
>
> (Yes, I know it's a band-aid, and yes, I know it breaks the end-to-end
> connectivity principle here, but we're getting pummeled and it's  
> the best
> fix we have...because nobody seems ready, willing, and able to  
> secure the
> huge number of zombie'd systems out there and keep them that way.)
>
> I wonder how much *other* traffic falls into the category of  
> "abusive",
> e.g., ssh brute-force probes, DoS attacks, etc.
>
> ---Rsk
>
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