Wrong class -- The vanishing American computer programmer]

["David Farber" <dave () farber net>]

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Subject: [IP] The vanishing American computer programmer
From:    "David Patterson" <pattrsn () eecs berkeley edu>
Date:    Mon, July 16, 2007 11:36 am
To:      dave () farber net
Cc:      "Dan Garcia" <ddgarcia () eecs berkeley edu>
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CS3 is not the intro course for CS at Berkeley. (It is a catchup course
for students with weak programming backgrounds)

The Berkeley intro CS course is CS 61A.

6 weeks before classes start it has 191 students enrolled.

Dave Patterson
P.S. Starting salaries for Cal CS BS students went up 20% in 2006, so I
believe the pendulum is swinging back


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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:08:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
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Subject: [IP] The vanishing American computer programmer]

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Subject: Re: [IP] The vanishing American computer programmer
From:    "David Josephson" <dlj04 () josephson com>
Date:    Sun, July 15, 2007 1:38 pm
To:      dave () farber net
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A friend's nephew started as an undergrad at Cal Berkeley this year.
Their entry level programming class, CS3, is "cancelled for the next
semester." There is no equivalent. There were probably 20 sections of
the equivalent CS1 when I was there 30 years ago. When does this house
of cards fall over?

--
David Josephson




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