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Re: New US/EU passenger name records treaty leaked
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:13:40 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: James Cox <james () imaj es> Date: July 4, 2007 2:46:12 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: Re: [IP] New US/EU passenger name records treaty leaked Dave, Some thoughts on this from a UK/EU citizen perspective:So, there are 36 data points being collected (as opposed to the 19 bandied about). This is bad but it gets worse - All data (including topics such as personal data revealing racial or ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade union membership, and data concerning the health or sex life of the individual) is to be transmitted, with the DHS systems filtering this out. But not really, because it's still accessible in cases of peril to the individual.
Oh, and the data is kept *active* for 7 years, for analytical purposes (how many times have you been in the US in the past 7 years? Did you like the hotel .... ) further, the data is kept in a *dormant* state for 8 years. Except that the actual manner of deleting the PNR data is yet to be discussed, so it may not actually happen. Plus, in the next 15 years, there will be at least two different presidents, multiple Secretaries of Defence, Homeland Security and State, a possibly entirely different kind of EU.
As a country we've restricted the suspension of Habeas Corpus to only 28 days. We have the D. P. A. for managing and restricting access to such personal data. But it's OK if you travel to the US - expect fingerprints, iris scans, and your family history to be stored on accessible and semi accessible databases for 15 years.
Our liberties and rights get eroded, just a little bit, every day. Soon we'll be lucky to have a name rather than just an identity.
James On 4 Jul 2007, at 18:57, David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: "Erich M." <me () quintessenz org> Date: July 4, 2007 1:15:54 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: FYI: New US/EU passenger name records treaty leaked Dave, The new passenger name record agreement between the US and the EU hasbeen leaked. The draft treaty text looks ready for a closing. A foreignoffice spokesperson here in Vienna confirmed that, so this should be more or less identical to the final version.The letter from the EU presidency to COREPER dated june 28 includes thedraft agreement on PNR plus the US position in ANNEX2. Full text [English] http://quintessenz.org/d/000100003891 Analysis of the new treaty in German [from today] http://futurezone.orf.at/it/stories/204742/The gist: The new "push" system demands even more data from EU passengerdatabases. What Mr. Frattini told the public about "reduction" is ablatant swindle: more has been packed into the 19 points of the new PNRagreement than the previously equired 34 datafields contained.The withdrawal of the US from the Amadeus pnr data base comes at a dearprice to the Europeans: They have to deliver more and better pre-structured data, fitting to the technical requirements of the DHS. So data mining will much easier for DHS, as correct data extraction is the first critical step to get the results desired. Credits go to Tony Bunyan from statewatch.org who dug out that draft agreement. cu Erich -- pgp-Key http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE386BAA1 -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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