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Wiretap Debacle


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:26:42 -0400



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From: gep2 () terabites com
Date: July 27, 2007 10:24:37 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Wiretap Debacle

It is hard to believe that the Wall Street Journal would be so disingenuous on this issue.

First of all, the applicable FISA laws specify that urgent wiretaps CAN be put into place immediately and approved by the FISA courts retroactively (within 72 hours, IIRC). So that's not subject to the whims of some particular FISA court judge.

Second, it has come out in filings in the class action lawsuit against cooperating telecommunications companies that the massive warrantless (and thus illegal) wiretapping under the present misAdministration actually was requested from the White House MONTHS BEFORE 9/11... a matter of just weeks after he took (literally) control of the White House.

Third, as far as referring to the FISA statute as "outdated", note that the laws have been REPEATEDLY and nearly CONTINUOUSLY revised as needed to allow LEGITIMATE wiretaps. The White House has simply REFUSED to even pretend to go through the motions to justify its wiretaps, EVEN AFTER THE FACT.

The FISA laws are provided in large part to prevent just exactly the kind of massive DOMESTIC wiretapping that the present misAdministration has been apparently engaging in.

The Watergate breakin that took down Nixon's presidency was criminal violation of the privacy rights of the President's opponents.

In the present situation, the misAdministration has ADMITTED to MASSIVE violations of the law... literally THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of felonies, which carry a five-year prison sentence each!!!

If the current FISA law is inadequate, the appropriate solution to that is to make the case before Congress and to get the law amended as necessary (and this has been done many times... back in 2001 under the Republican legislature, he could have gotten nearly anything he asked for rubber-stamped instantly). But the White House wouldn't even go through THOSE minimal formalities.

The Gonzales hearings this week, the commuting of Scooter Libby's sentence, Harriet Miers' thumbing her nose at Congressional subpoenas, Cheney's refusal to submit to legally required auditing of his office's handling of classified information, his outrageous claim that his office was "not part of the Executive Branch", the THOUSANDS of signing statements where Shrub declared himself the sole person needing to interpret how the laws passed by Congress applied to him, the blatantly illegal torture of prisoners, the treasous destruction of Valerie Plame's painstakingly constructed undercover information network for tracking weapons of mass destruction, the unbelievable manipulation of intelligence and outright lies that took this nation into an absolutely unnecessary and illegal war of aggression (which has cost us almost four thousand troops, tens of thousands of hidesously wounded, more than half a million civilian deaths, stretching our military to the breaking point (including the misallocation of our National Guard!) and costs approaching a trillion dollars)... this misAdministration has amply demonstrated their distaste and disdain for the Constitution ("...it's just a goddamed piece of paper!!" --George W. Bush) and the rule of law to a degree that absolutely boggle the imagination.

If there has EVER been a US misAdministration absolutely SCREAMING out for impeachment (followed by conviction and imprisonment!), it is the present one...!!

While I agree that the Bush Administration is to blame for MANY of the present debacles (including the disastrous loss of the respect this nation once held among the other countries of the world), I would have thought that a once-respected newspaper like the WSJ would have gotten this one better than what they did.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:08:13 -0400
 David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
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From: "Atkinson, Robert" <rca53 () columbia edu>
Date: July 27, 2007 7:47:42 AM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Wiretap Debacle
“Wiretap Debacle” is The Wall Street Journals’ lead editorial today.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118549840246979803.html? mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
An excerpt:
. . . Mr. Bush has rightly defended the program's legality, but as a gesture of compromise in January he agreed to seek warrants under the FISA process. This has turned out to be an enormous mistake that has unilaterally disarmed one of our best intelligence weapons in the war on terror. To understand why, keep in mind that we live in a world of fiber optics and packet-switching. A wiretap today doesn't mean the FBI must install a bug on Abdul Terrorist's phone in Peshawar. Information now follows the path of least resistance, wherever that may lead. And because the U.S. has among the world's most efficient networks, hundreds of millions of foreign calls are routed through the U.S. That's right: If an al Qaeda operative in Quetta calls a fellow jihadi in Peshawar, that call may well travel through a U.S. network. This ought to be a big U.S. advantage in our "asymmetrical" conflict with terrorists. But it also means that, for the purposes of FISA, a foreign call that is routed through U.S. networks becomes a domestic call. So thanks to the obligation to abide by an outdated FISA statute, U.S. intelligence is now struggling even to tap the communications of foreign-based terrorists. If this makes you furious, it gets worse. Our understanding is that some FISA judges have been open to expediting warrants, as well as granting retroactive approval. But there are 11 judges in the FISA rotation, and some of them have been demanding that intelligence officials get permission in advance for wiretaps. This means missed opportunities and less effective intelligence. And it shows once again why the decisions of unaccountable judges shouldn't be allowed to supplant those of an elected Commander in Chief. When the program began, certain U.S. telecom companies also cooperated with the National Security Agency. But they were sued once the program was exposed, and so some have ceased cooperating for fear of damaging liability claims. We found all of this hard to believe when we first heard it, but we've since confirmed the details with other high-level sources. Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell more or less admitted the problem last week, albeit obliquely, when he told the Senate that "We're actually missing a significant portion of what we should be getting." That's understating things. Our sources say the surveillance program is now at most one-third as effective as it once was.
The Bush Administration bears much of the blame for this debacle. …

Gordon Peterson
http://personal.terabites.com
1977-2007  Thirty year anniversary of local area networking


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