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more on Ohio University announces changes in file-sharing policies
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:44:29 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Victor Marks <victormarks () gmail com> Date: April 27, 2007 8:43:59 AM EDT To: dave () farber netSubject: Re: [IP] more on Ohio University announces changes in file- sharing policies
Hi Dave, For IP if you wish.
From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net> Date: April 26, 2007 1:33:20 PM EDT To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox comSubject: Re: [IP] more on Ohio University announces changes in file- sharing policies
Brett Glass wrote:
Media piracy software (sometimes called "P2P" software by people who wish to conflate it with legitimate software that operates in a peer to peer mode) abuses the network, often without the consent of the userwho installed it. Universities have the right, and in fact an obligation,to prohibit crimes on campus. And any ISP -- especially a University,where much network abuse occurs -- is therefore fully within its rightsto prohibit abuse of the network. --Brett Glass
Professor James Gibson of the Richmond Law Intellectual Property Institute approves of distributing the Institute's movies via p2p software, specifically bittorrent compliant clients.
He specifically told me so in http://podcasts.macnn.com/ 041406podcast.m4a . I forget at what time in the conversation.
He asked for help in doing so, even. Another legitimate use was the example set by Swarthmore students: "After students at Swarthmore College posted the files, Diebold made a demand under the DMCA that the college remove the materials or face suit for contributory copyright infringement.
The students were therefore forced to remove the materials.However, in order keep the materials available, the students asked students at other institutions to mirror the files, and injected them into the eDonkey, BitTorrent, and FreeNet file-sharing and publication networks. Ultimately, a court held that the unauthorized publication of files that were not intended for sale and carried such high public value was a fair use.
" -- http://www.congo-education.net/wealth-of-networks/ch-11.htmNot all p2p clients are created equally. Few attempt to share all your media. Most attempt to share only what is in a specific shared directory, which is coincidentally where they download as well. In the case of bittorrent, only that which is downloaded through the client is ever uploaded.
Can bittorrent really be said to be a media piracy software when its parent bittorrent.com has made deals with content providers to "rent movies for a 24-hour viewing period for $3.99 for new titles and $2.99 for older films, but the site has decided not to sell films for now because the prices demanded by the studios were too high"
Rather than forbid the application which has legitimate uses, forbid the bad uses.
Is it overbroad to suggest that calling all p2p clients media piracy software is akin to calling VCRs media piracy devices because pirated tapes were/are widely available?
Should institutions ban VCRs? Or is the difference only in that bittorrent and the network enable greater numbers?
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