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From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 07:45:05 -0500
no matter what the facts are DHS equals terrorism in the public mind. Also will any one explain to me how paying off a large balance is a fraud warning? djf -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [IP] We all have to sacrifice, in the War on Terriers Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:59:04 -0500 From: Seth Finkelstein <sethf () sethf com> To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> CC: ip () v2 listbox com, Randall <rvh40 () insightbb com> References: <440762F2.9080508 () farber net>
What got him so upset might seem trivial to some people who have learned to accept small infringements on their freedom as just part of the way things are in this age of terror-fed paranoia. It's that "everything changed after 9/11" thing. But not Walter. They were told, as they moved up the managerial ladder at the call center, that the amount they had sent in was much larger than their normal monthly payment. And if the increase hits a certain percentage higher than that normal payment, Homeland Security has to be notified. And the money doesn't move until the threat alert is lifted.
Let's stop right here, and engage critical facilities. We have a journalist's *paraphrase* of a *second-hand account* of an *unsourced* legal interpretation. I think some skepticism is warranted. Note how the sentence structure implies to the casual reader that Homeland Security must lift the flag, and it's terrorism-related, without actually saying that ("the money doesn't move until the threat alert is lifted"). The reader isn't told that the Homeland Security Department is in charge of credit-card fraud as a function completely apart from terrorism, a fact that was not difficult to find: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?theme=79&content=271 Threats & Protection Financial Crimes Credit Card Fraud/Identity Theft "The Secret Service is the primary federal agency tasked with investigating access device fraud and its related activities under Title 18, United States Code, Section 1029." I suggest a far more *likely* series of events is as follows: 1) Sending in payment far in excess of the normal monthly payment will raise a fraud flag, purely as the private, free-market, choice of the credit-card business. 2) Potential fraud is also reported the authorities, perhaps as a matter of law. But I would be very surprised if they make the final call on releasing the money. I suspect these two facts got garbled together, and then throw in "terror-fed paranoia" (in another sense), and we're off knee-jerking about boiling frogs and Orwelling and wolf, wolf, wolf. Would it be asking too much to have some facts before debating how much the US has fallen into a Police State here? -- Seth Finkelstein Consulting Programmer http://sethf.com Infothought blog - http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/ Interview: http://sethf.com/essays/major/greplaw-interview.php ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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