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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:09:04 -0500



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From: Peter Wayner <p3 () wayner org>
Date: January 24, 2006 4:59:15 PM EST
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, Newmedia () aol com
Subject: Re: [IP] Good Question more on Could NY Times face a treason trial?

Uh, according to this article, the NYT saw an small UPTICK in overall circulation (.5%):

http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=120974

The Herald is a competitor to the Boston Globe, another newspaper owned by the NY Times. So they're playing up the decline in Queens and the Bronx. (When I lived in Brooklyn, I had to walk about 12 blocks to buy a copy of the NYT. But I get delivery every morning here in Baltimore.)

And if you add in the 156,000 new paying TimesSelect members, it's even larger:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp? vnu_content_id=1001883849

Circulation revenue, however, is down about 3%. So maybe there are more free copies? I don't know.

But note that expenses are way up (12%).

See the press releases here:

http://www.nytco.com/

So the deeper problem is the cost of newsprint, the cost of energy and other things, but not "terrible" circulation. Of course, circulation erosion is a problem hitting other papers and it's an understandable assumption that it's bad at the NYT as well.

(Disclaimer: I'm just a curious person who does not speak for the corporation at all, although they sometimes pay me.)

-Peter






On Jan 24, 2006, at 4:44 PM, David Farber wrote:



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From: Newmedia () aol com
Date: January 24, 2006 4:18:52 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Good Question more on Could NY Times face a treason trial?

Dave:

Speaking as Wall Street analyst, I suspect that the New York Times would *welcome* such a trial given a) the boost that it would probably bring to their circulation (which is in terrible shape, in case you haven't noticed) and b) they probably wouldn't even have to pay the legal bill.

After all the newsroom scandals, I can just imagine "Pinch" forcefully striding across the stage to defend the Times' role as the new civil liberties sheriff in town . . . <g>

Mark Stahlman
New York City

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