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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:31:10 -0500
All your missing is the fog. djf Begin forwarded message: From: Matt Blaze <mab () crypto com> Date: January 24, 2006 3:09:51 PM EST To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Could NY Times face a treason trial? I don't understand the argument that the NY Times' reporting about the NSA domestic wiretap program has harmed national security. It has been public knowledge for many years that the NSA and other national security and law enforcement agencies have the technical capability to intercept telephone traffic under certain conditions, and FISA explicitly deals with the use of this capability for intelligence gathering. Surely it isn't being argued that terrorists would never have known that telephone wiretaps are used in counter-terrorism investigations inside and outside the US had the NY Times not published its articles? Innumerable books articles, web sites -- not to mention the FISA act itself and the transcripts of various trials in which FISA evidence has been introduced -- have long warned that the government has the technical and legal ability to wiretap telephone calls in national security cases. The news in the NY Times articles was not that wiretaps were being conducted -- they obviously were -- but that new (and possibly illegal) internal procedures could authorize them without judicial review. How does exposure of these new procedures harm national security? What am I missing? -matt On Jan 24, 2006, at 14:08, David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: h_bray () globe com Date: January 24, 2006 1:56:23 PM EST To: dave () farber net Subject: Could NY Times face a treason trial?The noble Harvey Silverglate has suggested in the Boston Phoenix that the NY Times could well be put on trial for publishing news that violated US national security. Now comes another suggestion along the same lines fromthe conservative Powerline blog: http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012924.phpAll the Powerline guys are lawyers, so their perspective can be given someweight. Hiawatha Bray Technology Reporter Boston Globe 135 Morrissey Blvd. P.O. Box 55819 Boston, MA 02205-5819 USA 617-929-3119 voice 617-929-3183 fax 617-233-9419 cell bray () globe com watha () monitortan com Recent writings: www.boston.com/business/technology/bray ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as matt+ip () crypto com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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