more on should you be afraid -- KBR awarded Homeland Security contract -- detention facilities in USA]

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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Subject: RE: [IP] should you be afraid -- KBR awarded Homeland Security
contract -- detention facilities in USA
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:49:06 -0500
From: RJR RJRiley.com <RJR () RJRILEY com>
To: dave () farber net

Unfortunately some people are in positions in government or otherwise which
effectively makes it imprudent for them to attach their name to comments.

I deal with many of our country's top inventors.  We lobby government and
press  about issues important to the inventor community.  Some inventors can
take very public stands while others effectively have their first amendment
rights abridged.  Inventors involved in litigation and inventors who have
business relationships with large corporations are both examples of this.
Thos in litigation are silenced by fear that anything they say may be used
against them in the patent disputes.  Those who have business relationships
with a large company get threatened with loss of business if they take a
stand which is contrary to what the large company is promoting.  We have
seen it happen.

We all have free speech rights to address our government and the government
is not supposed to retaliate.  But there is no protection for speech if some
private party decides to punish us.  They can and do use their economic
might to silence dissident voices.

Ronald J Riley, President
Professional Inventors Alliance
www.PIAUSA.org
RJR (at) PIAUSA.org
Change "at" to @
RJR Direct # (202) 318-1595

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [IP] KBR awarded Homeland Security contract -- detention
facilities in USA]
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:32:09 -0800
From: Steven Hertzberg <stevenstevensteven () gmail com>
To: ip () v2 listbox com
CC: dave () farber net

Is this poster being serious when they said: "Dave, please anonymize, don't
want to be considered a non-patriot," or were they joking?  I see that Dave
did remove their email address from the header, so I can only assume that
this poster was serious.

I do not mean to disparage this poster, but requesting anonymity for fear of
being labeled by government is quite a concern.  The founders were quite
fearful of government-over-man.  Hence, it is our duty as citizen's in our
political system to remain ever vigilant in our oversight of government, to
be the final check on their power.  In George Washington's farewell address
he warned: This fear is due to the ever-present, never-changing weaknesses
of human nature in government which are conducive to "love of power and
proneness to abuse it."  Is it not fair to say that government's power needs
only to exist to be feared--to be dominant, over the fear-ridden, without
ever needing to be exercised aggressively.  I argue that citizens cannot
allow themselves to become fear-ridden.

________________________________
Steven Hertzberg
http://www.hertzberg.org


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: KBR awarded Homeland Security contract -- detention facilities in
USA
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:26:12 -0800
From:
To: dave () farber net


Dave:

Please anonymize, don't want to be considered a non-patriot.


http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B62C8724D%2DAE8A%2D4
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teid=38741%2E5136277662%2D858254656

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- KBR, the engineering and construction
subsidiary of Halliburton Co.  (HAL  :
Halliburton Company said Tuesday it has been awarded a contingency contract
from the Department of Homeland Security to supports its Immigration and
Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency. The maximum
total value of the contract is $385 million and consists of a 1-year base
period with four 1-year options. KBR held the previous ICE contract from
2000 through 2005. The contract, which is effective immediately, provides
for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand
existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the
event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the
rapid development of new programs, KBR said. The contract may also provide
migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of
an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a
national emergency, such as a natural disaster, the company said.

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