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more on FBI documents obtained via FOIA indicate Patriot Act abuses [priv]


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:15:45 -0400



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From: Jim Warren <jwarren () well com>
Date: October 25, 2005 4:42:31 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Subject: Re: [IP] FBI documents obtained via FOIA indicate Patriot Act abuses [priv]


... The FBI has conducted clandestine surveillance on some U.S.
residents for as long as 18 months at a time without proper paperwork or
oversight ...


So?  Why should this surprise anyone?!

The problem with such ILLEGAL actions by government agents and agencies is -- although it is prohibited by law, there are NO PENALTIES mandated against those who perpetrate these crimes!

It is VERY common -- USUALLY the case! -- that legislators (local, state and federal) enact such feel-good prohibitions and limits, when they grant new and dangerous powers to their agencies, to "protect us" against agent/agency abuses.

BUT ... they RARELY include any PENALTIES to be imposed on those who are actually responsible, when (not if!) various agents and agencies overreach, abuse their powers and functionally thumb their governmental noses at the "rule of law" that is so-incessantly tauted by the same conservative legislators who FAIL to mandate PENALTIES against such government law-breakers.

Can you imagine those same law'n'order legislators enacting comparable restraints and prohibitions on us CITIZENS ... without ALSO making DAMN-sure they include substantive PENALTIES to be imposed on anyone who dares to violate their limits?!

First and foremost, the government -- especially this law'n'order government -- serves itSELF; NOT its citizens!

--jim, just another disgusted Citizen





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