more on Papers, Please: Real ID = National ID Card

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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> Perhaps more to the point, since passage of Real ID appears to be a
> virtual certainty, concerned persons should be prepared to engage
> where possible in support of the various court challenges to Real ID
> (on numerous different grounds) that thankfully will certainly
> follow.
>
> Of course, if Frist and his minions get their way, they'll populate
> the judiciary with their sycophants deluxe -- the goal being to turn
> the federal courts into rubber stamps for Frist's particularly
> intolerant distortion of patriotism.
>
> "For the safety and glory of the Homeland -- your papers, please."
>
> And to think, exactly sixty years ago we were celebrating victory
> over a regime where internal passports and identity papers were
> foundations for a repressive lifestyle that was supposed to last for
> a thousand years.
>
> --Lauren--
> Lauren Weinstein
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>
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Bill Scannell <bill () scannell org>
> > Date: May 8, 2005 6:24:40 PM EDT
> > To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> > Subject: Papers, Please: Real ID = National ID Card
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Citizen:
> >
> > We have less than 48 hours to stop our nation from having a National
> > ID card
> > scheme.  Do we really want to have the same ID system as Communist
> > China?  I
> > think not.
> >
> > The US Senate is scheduled to vote this Tuesday on the Real ID Act.
> > They've
> > never debated the bill.  Most of them haven't even bothered to read it.
> > Nevertheless, they're going to pass it: unless we do something to
> > stop them
> >
> > Real ID is a very, very real national identification card.
> >
> > This isn't going to be easy, but we need to put the Senate on notice
> > that if
> > they vote for Real ID, they're voting in favor of a National ID Card.
> >
> > Take immediate action:
> >
> > http://www.unRealID.com
> >
> > ··· --- ···  ··· --- ···
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety
> > deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> > - Benjamin Franklin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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