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more on The Long Emergency


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:20:44 -0400



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From: Frode Hegland <frode () hegland com>
Date: July 17, 2005 7:34:01 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] more on The Long Emergency


It would be easy to go into the whole oil debate, how America is not not self sufficient and all that. But just one simple fact blows this selfish view out of the water:

"Cultivation of soya yields 356 pounds of protein per acre... with beef being the most wasteful at only 20 pounds of protein per acre." http://www.globalhunger.net/back.html

When all the people in India demand hamburgers for dinner they will simply run out of land. And water.

Don't get me started on the whole 'we've paid for' issue either, not always is the full cost of a transaction included in the price: nuclear power (which I support) is a glowing example of that one.


On 17 Jul 2005, at 23:56, David Farber wrote:



Both this and the original article are so ridiculous it's laughable, or
would be if it weren't being used by busybodies as a basis for laws
prohibiting the comfortable lifestyles we've paid for and are entitled
to keep.

You need to read "The Ultimate Resource 2" by Julian Simon, which
disproves the entire "peak oil" scenario.  Then if you still disagree,
I'll be glad to make the same bet with you that Simon made with Paul
Ehrlich.

Left wingers and their media are always telling you the sky is falling
because they want to exploit your fears. The worst thing about democracy
is that people so ignorant that it works on them still get to vote.






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