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Dave, why do the IP consider recognition of cr eationism in a fewschool districts so
From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:25:28 -0500
_______________ Forward Header _______________ Subject: Dave, why do the IP consider recognition of creationism in a fewschool districts so Author: "Munro, Neil" <NMunro () nationaljournal com> Date: 12th February 2005 5:19:59 pm much more offensive than the crummy math & science scores among so many poor and middle-class Americans? Or the declining number of Americans going into the sciences and engineering? Or, more broadly, why care about Kansas schools when there are so many greater horrors, such as global warming, genocide in Sudan, President Bush, war, AIDS, etc. I'm not defending or attacking creationism, just trying to find out why your folks care so much about the policy of a school board in Kansas. Neil ________________________________ From: owner-ip () v2 listbox com on behalf of n Sent: Sat 2/12/2005 11:16 AM To: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: [IP] Re: Creationists take their challenge to evolu tion theory into theclassroom ----- Original Message ----- From: "John S. Quarterman" <jsq () quarterman org> To: <dave () farber net> Cc: "John S. Quarterman" <jsq () quarterman org>; <ip () v2 listbox com> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Creationists take their challenge to evolu tion theory into theclassroom
_______________ Forward Header _______________ Subject: Re: Creationists take their challenge to evolution theory into theclassroom Author: David Byrden <iplist () byrden com> Date: 12th February 2005 1:26:23 pm...I think my approach should be used to deflate the Creationists such as Mr. Harris, who said: >> "There are creation myths on both sides. Which one do you teach?" Mr. Harris is wrong; there are more than two sides. Every religion has a different creation myth.And Christianity has at least two: Adam and Eve created simultaneously vs. Eve created out of Adam's side; they're both in Genesis 1. This is well known to every serious student of religion, or, for that matter, to anyone who simply reads that book.If the Creationists force Creation to be taught in schools, the schools should teach every single creation myth from cultures all around the world. This would leave no time for any science in science class - thus making a point - and would undermine the students' unthinking acceptance of Christianity.Or at least undermine their unthinking acceptance of some particular sect's interpretation of Genesis as representing Christianity. After all, when did Bishop Ussher's dating of Creation to 4004 BC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ussher become more important than the Sermon on the Mount or the parable of the Good Samaritan? David has said what I haven't seen many people say: the response that will succeed to a creationist attack on evolution is not to circle the wagons around evolution or even around science. It is to counterattack against the creationists' version of religion and Christianity. This isn't something that many of us particularly want to do; science isn't about attacking religion; it is about science. However, this isn't science; it is politics. What creationists believe and teach in their own homes and churches is their affair. But when they interject their dogma into public school systems as fact, they expose it for critical examination, not to mention ridicule.David-jsq
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