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more on social security investment accounts, was Cutting Only Peanut Butter
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:40:39 -0500
------ Forwarded Message From: John Levine <johnl () iecc com> Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:16:33 +0000 To: <dave () farber net> Cc: <robertslee () verizon net> Subject: Re: [IP] social security investment accounts, was Cutting Only Peanut Butter
Not only do I agree with this article, but I also do not understand the millions of small private accounts. IF a greater return is the only rationale for these absurdly small and expensive accounts, then the obvious solution is for the SS Trust Fund to take 2% of its funds and invest in the index funds or ETFs of various securities markets.
Well, you'll never last long as a White House political operative. The point of the small accounts is political theater. To some extent they neutralize opposition since they can say that if you don't want one, you don't have to have one. And they give people the illusion of control over "their" borrowed money. Then there's the pesky details: according to White House interviews, the private accounts are designed to be revenue neutral to the government so they won't help close the alleged revenue gap. Worse, unless you accept faith-based arithmetic and believe that the majority of people will get above average returns and that these accounts will have no transaction costs, the majority of people who try them will end off worse off than if they'd done nothing. In other countries like Chile, it's been politically unavoidable to bail out the people whose accounts tanked at vast cost. That would surely happen here as well since the alternative is photogenic grandmas who vote living in cardboard boxes. You are of course correct that if you wanted to invest a trillion dollars in the market, the most efficient way is to invest it as one big fund. Vanguard, for example, charges only 0.08% for their total stock market index fund if you put in at least $10M. A fund like this, with its vast size and its highly predictable inflows and outflows depending almost entirely on demographics rather than market performance should be able to operate at more like 0.01% cost. But that still leaves the market risk and the economic distortions.
Inevitably, regardless of whether there are millions of small accounts or just one large one, the unintended (or perhaps intended) result will be an expansion of the price earnings multiples of the markets into which this money is put.
I haven't seen any good economic analyses of the effect on both the stock market and the rest of the economy of simultaneously borrowing a trillion dollars as government bonds, force feeding that money back into the stock market, then buying and selling on a demographically determined schedule that everyone will know years in advance. Has anyone else? Regards, John Levine, johnl () taugh com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY http://www.taugh.com ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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