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SBC, not Verizon The Biggest Bell of Them All
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:23:03 -0400
------ Forwarded Message From: Jeff Schult <jss () tftb com> Organization: ctlook.com Reply-To: Jeff Schult <jss () tftb com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:05:14 -0400 To: <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] SBC, not Verizon The Biggest Bell of Them All Dave, As someone who has followed the Bells for years (and also worked for SBC), I can tell Dan, if he didn't know already, that many people over time have attempted to explain (or justify) the difference in valuations between Verizon and SBC. To summarize their arguments: 1.) Verizon has been more profitable, as noted. 2.) Verizon has said it will invest a great deal more in next-generation networks ($29 billion more in the next five years, I've read) ... and so Wall Street gives them credit for being more likely to be in a better competitive position a few years from now. 3.) Verizon is perceived as being more efficient generally. SBC is, in many ways, still a company that is just cobbled together out of Southwest Bell, PacBell, Ameritech, SNET, Nevada Bell, Prodigy, Cingular, etc. and has never done what was necessary to achieve the kind of cost savings one would expect they could have -- other than with layoffs and buyouts, which also cost them a lot of experienced talent. I could go on -- but, obviously, there are real reasons to account for the valuations. The valuations reflect the aggregate opinion of the marketplace for the stocks of the two companies, and the difference in the two has been something of a curiousity that has generated speculation for years. -jeff www.tftb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net> To: "Ip" <ip () v2 listbox com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: [IP] SBC, not Verizon The Biggest Bell of Them All ------ Forwarded Message From: Daniel Berninger <dan () danielberninger com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:35:23 -0400 To: <dave () farber net> Subject: SBC, not Verizon The Biggest Bell of Them All Dave, There appears to be an anomaly in the relative market valuations of SBC and Verizon due to differences in how they report wireless results. I am challenging anyone to account for the 25% premium enjoyed by Verizon shares over SBC. Everyone seems to think Verizon is the larger company, but SBC is larger by revenues and customer counts for celluar, LD, DSL, and Data. The two report the same number of total access lines. SBC has somewhat better overall margins. Verizon appears the larger company because it integrates 100% of Verizon Wireless's numbers as a part of the parent company's revenues and expense. SBC reports Cingular's results separate from the wireline results of SBC. So much for efficient markets theory. See below. Best regards, Dan ...................................... Daniel Berninger VP, Senior Analyst Tier1 Research v: 202.250.3838 e: dan () tier1research com w: www.tier1research.com
http://www.gigaom.com/2005/04/28/sbc-not-verizon-the-biggest-bell-of-them-al l/ SBC, not Verizon The Biggest Bell of Them All If you would look at the shares of Verizon this morning, you would come to a conclusion - VZ is the biggest phone company in the US. Well, that is just not true. At the end of first quarter 2005, SBC is the largest baby bell company. Yes, that¹s right - bigger than Verizon, which for some odd reason gets more props on Wall Street than SBC. ³I am challenging anyone to justify the 25% premium enjoyed by VZ shares relative to SBC,² says Dan Berninger, senior analyst with Tier1 Research. Maybe because Verizon made more money this quarter than SBC? ($1.8 billion versus $885 million for SBC?) Still Dan¹s argument is quite valid. In an apple-to-apple comparison, Verizon¹s 1Q-2005 revenue was $18.18 billion, while SBC came in at $18.34 billion. As an aside, the two companies have roughly the same number of local access lines -Verizon 52.2 million and SBC 52 million. Verizon¹s proportional share of wireless customers, is 25 million or 55% of 45.45 million, while SBC¹s 60 percent share of Cingular¹s 50.4 million brings the company 30.2 million wireless customers. Verizon has 3.9 million DSL customers, SBC has 5.6 million. Verizon has 18 million long distance customers, while SBC has 22 million. High capacity data revenues: Verizon $2.1 billion versus SBC $2.8 billion. April 28, 2005 6:44 am ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as jss () tftb com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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