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more on book burnings are next...


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:50:03 -0500



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From: Tom Fairlie <tfairlie () frontiernet net>
Date: November 12, 2004 5:42:35 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] more on book burnings are next...

"Seems like the very opposite of book burning to me..."

Then you should study the issue more carefully.

What is at stake here is not one scientific theory versus another, but a
scientific theory that is being pitted against a religious belief that has no business being taught in science classes paid for by public tax dollars.

For more information on this subject, please Google on the "Scopes monkey trial" or check Wikipedia. This issue was settled in 1925 and again in 1968.

Of course, many people naïvely believe that intelligent design (ID) is about science, as opposed to pushing a religious point of view, and I guess that's
to be expected.

Assuming that you're not clumsily falling into this trap and sincerely want religion taught in our public schools, then I guess we could be persuaded towards this thinking if the education included all of the major religions
of the world and a fair analysis--with the pros and cons--of each.

Naturally, this sort of thing cannot be pulled off in modern America, as you would quickly become embroiled in debates from which there is no survival. The scientific community barely has the ability to fight ID; how on Earth
can we expect to have an honest an open debate about faith?

Let's concentrate on the long ignored basic stuff like reading, writing,
history, and math, and forget this nonsense before it becomes even more
serious nonsense.

Tom Fairlie

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From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net>
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:19 PM
Subject: [IP] more on book burnings are next...




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From: h_bray () globe com
Date: November 12, 2004 4:36:15 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] book burnings are next...






How is it book burning to mandate that more information be provided,
rather
than less?  Seems like the very opposite of book burning to me...

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From: "Sean C. Sheridan" <scs () CampusClients com>
Date: November 12, 2004 3:26:49 PM EST
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: book burnings are next...

Dave,


You gotta read this:


'DOVER, Pa.  ? When talk at the high school here turns to evolution,
biology teachers have to make time for Charles Darwin (search) as well
as his detractors.

With a vote last month, the school board in rural south-central
Pennsylvania community is believed to have become the first in the
nation to mandate the teaching of "intelligent design" (search), which
holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by
an unspecified higher power.'

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138419,00.html





Sean C. Sheridan
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Campus Party, Inc.
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Philadelphia, PA 19123
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