reply to criticism Fwd: Re: [CSL Colloq] Controlling Digital Cloth * 4:15PM, Wed May 12, 2004 in Gates B03 (fwd)

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:05:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dennis Allison <allison () shasta stanford edu>
Subject: Re: [CSL Colloq] Controlling Digital Cloth * 4:15PM, Wed May 12,
 2004 in Gates B03 (fwd)
To: dave () farber net


For IP if you wish.  My response to Jim's comments.

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Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 10:50:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dennis Allison <allison () shasta stanford edu>
To: Jim Warren <jwarren () well com>
Cc: Asilomar-News List <asilomar-news () amw org>
Subject: Re: [CSL Colloq] Controlling Digital Cloth * 4:15PM, Wed May 12,
     2004 in Gates B03

On Sat, 8 May 2004, Jim Warren wrote:

> Hey Dennis! --
>
> Thanks for keeping me on the EE380 announcement list.
>
> However ... I'm surprised -- and almost "appalled" -- that you would
> give in to such an outrageous repression of the access to and
> openness of this "covert" presentation ... in a long-standing forum
> that is SUPPOSED to represent the BEST in open discourse and academic
> freedom.
>
> SURELY what this guy has to say is not SO stellar, unique and
> invaluable, that it justifies dumping those laudable academic --
> ACADEMIC! -- principles, and cowtowing to the  evergrowing excesses
> of "intellectual property"!
>
> It's even more appalling, assuming that you have non-local EE380
> *students*, ENROLLED to take it as a telecourse!
>
> Other'n that, hope allz well with you 'n' yours.  :-)
>
> --jim
>


Well, if were my choice......

The work Ari's doing is interesting but it appears only in films like
Harry Potter.  Showing clips from the films is impossible if we broadcast
or webcast because the copyright owners won't allow it.  She's doing
interesting work which deserves a forum.  And, we have folks who are
interested.  The ILM presentations have historically been amongst our most
popular.  So, we try to meet the needs of our diverse community by
presenting the talk in an open and public forum (but not broadcast or
webcast) and present an alternative talk to the folks in television (and
web) land.  As a practical matter, the alternative is not to present talks
on topics like this at all.

For the record, we always have a disclaimer in the course information that
explains the occasional need to not broadcast a talk or blackout a
section.  This quarter it appears in restated form in the webpage header.

We do have students who are enrolled from afar, a goodly number of them.
And we have a much larger community world-wide that tunes in for
the occasional talk.  It's unfortunate that we cannot provide them access
to talks of this sort, but the current attitudes (paranoia) of the
copyright owners and the current copyright laws are not friendly to
academic video distribution.

Hope all is well with you.

        -d

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