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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:35:37 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Russell Nelson <nelson () crynwr com> Date: August 8, 2004 10:14:09 PM EDT To: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> Cc: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] more on somebody is spoofing "from dave () farber net"
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Oh, sure, there are proposals (like DomainKeys and SPF) on the table which attempt to wallpaper over the problem and hide its consequences, but none of these do anything to address the underlying issues.
DomainKeys isn't an attempt to wallpaper over the problem of zombies. I think you and Dave are talking about solving different problems. Yes, there is an overlap between stopping forgeries and stopping zombies. Spammers also send forgeries, and zombies are also used in denial of service attacks. Stopping zombies won't stop forgeries. DomainKeys is MTA-level cryptographic signing of email, including the headers and body but not the envelope (mailing lists need to modify the envelope). If you get a piece of email from a domain advertising that all outgoing email is signed, and it's unsigned or has a bad signature, you can be fully confident that it is forgery. Doesn't matter if a zombie sent it or a spammer sent it, it's a forgery and can be discarded. That's what Dave wants, right? ----My blog is at angry-economist.russnelson.com | Big business, big government, Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | big citizenry: the problem is 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | not who wields power, but the Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | FWD# 404529 via VOIP | fact that they wield it.
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