more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please'

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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...... Forwarded Message .......
From: Patrick W Gilmore <patrick () ianai net>
To: dave () farber net
Cc: Patrick W Gilmore <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:05:50 -0400
Subj: Re: [IP] more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please'

On Aug 16, 2004, at 3:50 PM, David Farber wrote:

> One more time, people--you do NOT have a right to travel on an airplane
> without identifying yourself.  There is NO SUCH RIGHT.  The airlines 
> are
> perfectly free to set reasonable requirements for its passengers.  For
> instance, if you're disabled or obese, you can't sit in the emergency 
> exit
> row, for fear of trapping people on the plane during an accident.  You 
> don't
> like it, stay on the ground.

I believe if you read the site, the complaint centers around the 
government's restriction, not the airline's.  Also, there are serious 
questions around the idea of a 'secret' law - changing weekly, 
inconsistent between airlines and/or locations, and transmitted orally 
no less.

Besides, Mr. Gilmore (NB: no relation that I know of) does not seem to 
object to being screened for weapons just like any other passenger.  
And his point about essentially not being able to travel at all 
(planes, trains, ships, and buses!) without "showing papers" does 
strike a cord with me.

Whether or not  you think everyone should show ID to get on an 
airplane, or whether you agree in general with Mr. Gilmore, I think 
anyone born and raised in "the Land of the Free" should have at least 
some of the same questions Mr. Gilmore does.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


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