Interesting People mailing list archives
Conway to Issa: drop dead, you dunce...
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 19:42:29 -0500
------ Forwarded Message From: Nathan Cochrane <ncochrane () theage fairfax com au> Reply-To: ncochrane () theage fairfax com au Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:11:08 +1000 To: dave () farber net Subject: RE: [IP] Conway to Issa: drop dead, you dunce... Hi Dave Both Australia and England -- the only two major countries to deploy fighting forces to Iraq as part of the "Coalition of the Willing" -- are both solid GSM countries. Australia was the first country outside Europe to deploy GSM in 1992. According to the GSM Association, as of March 5 there were 824.7 million GSM subscribers in 193 countries the world, and that is likely to break the 1 billion mark by the end of the year, it says. http://www.gsmworld.com/news/statistics/index.shtml Although there are small deployments of CDMA outside the US -- in Australia, for instance, it replaced the ageing AMPS analog network and is used mostly by farmers -- with the exception of South Korea it is largely confined to the US, where there are about 100 million subscribers. GSM accounts for 68.57 per cent of the world's subscribers, whereas CDMA holds just 12.27 per cent, according to the EMC Database. http://www.emc-database.com/ The decision as to which standard is used should be made by the Iraqis themselves based on what is in their national interest, not imposed in colonial fashion by vested interests within the military-communication complex of the US. Qualcomm, it should be remembered, is a major US military supplier. Qualcomm's OmniTRACS used in Kosovo http://www.qualcomm.com/govsys/mobiledata.html Homeland security @ Qualcomm http://www.qualcomm.com/qwbs/fleetsolutions/homeland/ Doubtless one of the selling points of the Qualcomm technology will be the ease with which the NSA will be able to eavesdrop on communications within the region, as both those using the handsets and those calling them will be open to easy interception. It will also mean that US forces in the region will have easy access to secure mobile comms infrastructure ("Condor"). "The military will require that the Code Division Multiple Access-based PCS system supplied by AT&T and Qualcomm use encryption and other security features defined by the National Security Agency through its secretive 'Condor' program." Qualcomm and the US military's "universal handset" http://www.nwfusion.com/archive/2001/122071_07-02-2001.html The important aspect now is that Iraqi civilians -- many of them women and children -- are being killed seemingly indiscriminately by coalition forces, so a discussion of which mobile standard to be used appears inappropriate, even sordid and tacky. But in a reconstructed Iraq, communication alongside sanitation and food distribution will be vitally important and so should not be sacrificed on the altar of some capitalist carve-up of the country. Further reading: By 2002, GSM allowed mobile users to roam to more than 170 countries making and receiving calls on one handset and with one global number. The technology now accounts for more than 70% of the worlds digital mobile phones. This market share is expected to grow even more with 3G systems, as more than 85% are expected to be 3G GSM/W-CDMA (UMTS). http://www.budde.com.au/TOC/TOC2812.html Worldwide GSM roaming http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml GSM FAQ http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/faq.shtml -----Original Message----- From: owner-ip () v2 listbox com [mailto:owner-ip () v2 listbox com]On Behalf Of Dave Farber Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:24 PM To: ip Subject: [IP] Conway to Issa: drop dead, you dunce... ------ Forwarded Message From: Paul Saffo <psaffo () iftf org> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:03:46 -0800 To: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu> Subject: Conway to Issa: drop dead, you dunce... Rob Conway retorts... http://www.cmpnetasia.com/ViewArt.cfm?Artid=19229&Catid=5&subcat=48 John Walko, 31-Mar-2003 The GSM Association has responded vigorously to a second-term Republican Congressman's outburst at plans to build a cellular network in post war Iraq based on what was described as the 'outdated French standard' instead of the 'superior' CDMA technology developed by Qualcomm. Rob Conway, CEO of the Association, said Congressman Darrell Issa's intervention was "as ill-timed as it is misinformed". In a letter to US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld, Congressman Issa, a former US Army captain, objected to plans by the US Agency for International Development to use federal funds to build a GSM based network in Iraq. He suggested it was outrageous that this could benefit companies from France and Germany, and said any such network should be based on CDMA technology that could benefit US equipment providers, notably Qualcomm, and 'safeguard hundreds of thousand of American jobs'. Conway said, " the right time to debate the technology will be when the real conflict is over. And at that time we should look at the real facts, not the Congressman's ill advised opinion. To suggest that GSM is simply a European or French standard is, in the current climate, quite outrageous." Conway added "the suggestion that CDMA technology be deployed in Iraq post-war is completely at odds with the rest of the region and the majority of the world. It would add to the country's isolation and arguably be at odds with the overall war effort. "I can't believe someone has started this debate at this time, and I certainly can't believe it has been started from such a false position and on such nationalistic terms." The GSM Association CEO noted GSM is an 'open standard', so any manufacturer from any country can make GSM equipment on a 'level playing field' - including North American companies such as Motorola, Lucent and Nortel. Issa suggested GSM (which in its very early development was referred to as Groupe Special Mobile) was developed by the French, and that if it were deployed in post-war Iraq, the system would be built by Alcatel or Siemens, or 'elsewhere in western and Northern Europe'. Here he likely refers to companies such as Ericsson of Sweden, the biggest supplier of cellular infrastructure, and Finnish group Nokia. Conway added major network operators in the USA offer GSM services such as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless and T-Mobile USA. He stressed GSM is already deployed in every country of the Middle East region - CDMA is not deployed in any. He noted GSM was installed in Afghanistan post-war by an American company (TSI of New York) after a full tender process. More than 20 Arab countries operate GSM networks that serve 60million customers in the region. However, since Iraq has been under UN sanctions, it has not been able to purchase GSM technology. It is perhaps not a coincidence that Congressman Issa represents the San Diego district of California, hometown of Qualcomm. This story first appeared in CommsDesign.com, a US-based CMP publication. ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as ncochrane () theage fairfax com au To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ **************************************************************************** ***** The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail, or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. **************************************************************************** ***** ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
Current thread:
- Conway to Issa: drop dead, you dunce... Dave Farber (Apr 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Conway to Issa: drop dead, you dunce... Dave Farber (Apr 01)