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more on interesting rhetoric from your high speed internet provider
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 06:54:24 -0500
------ Forwarded Message From: John Pickens <jpickens () sprynet com> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 00:56:17 -0800 To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: <[IP]> interesting rhetoric from your high speed internet provider I agree that the term "thieves" is "interesting". The article also defines the term "bandwidth abuse". These are loaded terms, and certainly capable of fueling controversy and polarization between "operator" and "subscriber". But the article does fairly describe the limitations of current deployed MAC protocols and also fairly describes solutions that are available for getting the bandwidth problem under better and fairer control for everyone - both operators and subscribers. Looking deeper, there is a "logic of the commons" phenomenon that is at play here - and there are often few "good guys" or "bad guys" - but primarily normal human beings accessing the "commons" (bandwidth) but increasingly hampered by "growth" (of the subscriber and application base) and "greed" (rational subscriber insists on lowest response time and demands to increase use of cool applications). Let's face it. First mile broadband access is cool. It is always-on and is blazingly-fast. So most subscribers do what is natural - they use it. And they become dependent upon it. But often they do not know the impact of what they do. One becomes dependent upon his internet radio station - but does not necessarily know its asymmetrical 128Kbps bandwidth consumption behavior. Another becomes dependent on the Internet for instant messenger voice/video chats with parents or significant other but does not know of its 400Kbps symmetrical behavior. Another sees that her cable modem light is blinking furiously hours after a friend leaves - and, after much labor, discovers that her friend had activated a peer to peer application, but even so is unaware that 1-2Mbps aggregate upstream traffic is being generated. What is so bad about peer to peer? Nothing - in an environment with sufficient resources (moving target). Peer to peer is problematic only in that its communication behavior is atypical from the applications originally envisioned for many (first-mile) commons. Its bandwidth behavior is reverse-asymmetrical. Applications a half decade ago were forward-asymmetrical consumers - web browsing. More recently symmetrical applications have appeared (VOIP, instant messenger video). But peer to peer is reverse-asymmetrical - in the upstream direction - and the longer a node stays connected the more peer nodes discover that node and amplify the upstream traffic. So peer-to-peer is actually exponentially reverse-asymmetrical. Cable and DSL and some fiber-to-the-home protocols were originally designed with the first usage profile in mind - asymmetric downstream applications use. Early cable installations were deployed with a high sharing ratio - 1000 users sharing a 25Mbps downstream channel is typical - 200 users sharing a 2Mbps upstream channel is also typical. In the early days when there are so few subscribers and applications, such bandwidth (the commons) is perceived as blazingly cool - and cool applications have cool performance. But as the number of subscribers rises, and as the subscribers discover even cooler applications, the commons begins to deteriorate - and often rapidly (25Mbps for one user becomes 25Kbps for 1000 concurrent users). So the action of the operator is not necessarily to be perceived as a police action (in managing the commons) but rather an effort to improve the quality of the commons for all consumers. (Ok, not all operators are alike ... but they do share the same problem of maintaining the viability of the commons.) So the real discussion is about tools - installing more bandwidth (growing the commons, but at a $$$ cost), installing more proactive MAC layer mechanisms (like DOCSIS 1.1 and DQOS for Cable) to managing quality of service more fairly, and installing tools such as the port-swapping flow detectors and traffic shapers mentioned by the article. It's an engineer's problem (and solution). J ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To unsubscribe or update your address, click http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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