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IP: more on Council of Europe drafts secret "Second Protocol" [grab your pgp while you can djf]
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 05:01:37 -0500
------ Forwarded Message From: gep2 () terabites com Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:28:48 -0600 To: farber () cis upenn edu Subject: Re: IP: Council of Europe drafts secret "Second Protocol" [grab your pgp while you can djf] The point is that for the types of messages they need to send, steganographic techniques combined with distributed data storage systems (and there are *billions* of little obscure places on the Internet to get information) combine in such a way that there is truly *no* feasible way to interpret information transfers that people *really* wish to keep secret. In the past, "code books" were impractical because distribution of large books was hugely difficult. Today, any commercially pressed audio CD (for just ONE example) can be used as a "code book" of 300-600Mb or more worth of machine-readable one-time pad (and these could be combined into a larger book if desired). A message could be sent as (for instance) a list of offsets (and lengths) into the code book (and any commercial audio CD would work, or for that matter even any software distribution disc) to retrieve (say) a stream of data which might assemble into (say) a ZIP file. Unzip the resulting stream, and voila, you have whatever message you like. PGP and other such "classical" encryption approaches are based on the premise that the message intercepted contains basically everything you need to decode it, except for some kind of (relatively small) "key". In fact, nowadays that simply needn't be true anymore... there are plenty of readily and universally available sources (CDs, the Internet, and more) where crucial pieces of the information can be concealed in absolutely innocent places. The truth of the matter is that the encryption war has been lost, that genie is simply out of the bottle. There is *no* way that it can be shoved back in. The solution is going to have to be found elsewhere, perhaps by these approaches of bugging peoples' computers somehow (even THAT is difficult on say, notebook computers), or otherwise infiltrating terrorist and criminal organizations. Gordon Peterson http://personal.terabites.com/ Support the Anti-SPAM Amendment! Join at http://www.cauce.org/ 12/19/98: Partisan Republicans scornfully ignore the voters they "represent". 12/09/00: the date the Republican Party took down democracy in America. ------ End of Forwarded Message For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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