Interesting People mailing list archives
IP: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:20:33 -0500
------ Forwarded Message From: Adam Shostack <adam () homeport org> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:58:35 -0500 To: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu> Subject: [mv () cdc gov: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"] For IP...I particularly like the avoidance of responsibility in the "we have no choice" comment. ----- Forwarded message from "Major Variola (ret)" <mv () cdc gov> ----- To: cypherpunks () lne com [domestic surveillance, brinworld, big bro, pseudosecurity] NEW YORK (Reuters) - Washington police are building what will be the nation's biggest network of surveillance cameras to monitor shopping areas, streets, monuments and other public places in the U.S. capital, a move that worries civil liberties groups, The Wall Street Journal said on Wednesday. The system would eventually include hundreds of cameras, linking existing devices in Metro mass transit stations, public schools and traffic intersections to new digital cameras mounted to watch over neighborhoods and shopping districts, the Journal said. "In the context of Sept. 11, we have no choice but to accept greater use of this technology," Stephen Gaffigan, the head of the police department project, told the Journal. He said city officials had studied the British surveillance system, which has more than 2 million cameras throughout the country, and were "intrigued by that model." <snip> http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryID=593227 ----- End forwarded message ----- Jeffery Rosen had an excellent bit in the NYTimes http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/07/magazine/07SURVEILLANCE.html?pagewanted=pr int on 'that model.' "Last year, Britain's violent crime rates actually increased by 4.3 percent, even though the cameras continued to proliferate. But CCTV cameras have a mysterious knack for justifying themselves regardless of what happens to crime. When crime goes up the cameras get the credit for detecting it, and when crime goes down, they get the credit for preventing it." -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume ------ End of Forwarded Message For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
Current thread:
- IP: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it" Dave Farber (Feb 13)