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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:17:32 -0400

Remember not to believe everything you read in this pile of links. BE CAREFUL IF YOU DECIDE TO EXPLORE
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 23:47:23 -0700
From: Phil Agre <pagre () alpha oac ucla edu>
To: "Red Rock Eater News Service" <rre () lists gseis ucla edu>

Here are some more URL's about the war.  Remember not to believe
everything you read.  Thanks to everyone who contributed.

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war

Strikes Target Taliban's Air Defenses
(good maps)
http://www.sptimes.com/News/100801/Worldandnation/Strikes_target_Taliba.shtml
http://www.sptimes.com/News/100801/Worldandnation/troops-flash.shtml
http://www2.sptimes.com/pdfs/afghanistan-close-up.pdf
http://www.sptimes.com/News/100801/Worldandnation/map1-flash.shtml

A Few Words Down the Line, Then Hell Breaks Loose
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/10/world/world4.html

Civilians Die in Afghan Raids
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1588000/1588466.stm

UN Office Destroyed in Kabul, 81 Deaths Confirmed
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-10/09/article20.shtml

Civilian Casualties in Afghanistan as US Continues Strikes
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-10/09/article21.shtml

Bombed and Darkened, Kabul Is a City in Fear
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000080550oct09.story

Bin Laden Left Kandahar Three Days Before Strikes
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-10/09/article2.shtml

DoD News Briefing - Secretary Rumsfeld and Gen. Myers
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/t10082001_t1008sdm.html

slides from today's DOD briefing
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/g011009-D-6570C.html

Official EU statement on initial strikes
http://ue.eu.int/newsroom/LoadDoc.cfm?MAX=1&DOC=!!!&BID=71&DID=67973&GRP=3809&LANG=1

Transcript of Tony Blair Interview on Al-Jazeera
http://www.pm.gov.uk/news.asp?NewsId=2695

CIA's Stealth War Centers on Eroding Taliban Loyalty and Aiding Opposition
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33989-2001Oct9.html

In Afghanistan, Anti-Taliban Forces See US Airstrikes as Falling Short
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000080562oct09.story

Afghan Troops Are Next Target
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000080547oct09.story

American Action Is Held Likely in Asia
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/international/asia/10INTE.html

US to Use Leaflets, Radio to Get Its Message to Afghan People
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000080564oct09.story

Terror War Fallout Could Create Central Asia Fronts
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1009/p7s2-wosc.html

Missile Strikes, Drought, Disease, and Hunger
http://ens-news.com/ens/oct2001/2001L-10-08-03.html

The Quality of Mercy: Food Drops in Minefields
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/10/world/world8.html

Immensity of the War Emerges
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/10/world/world2.html

Bin Laden Suddenly a Secondary Concern
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/10/world/world3.html

US Reserves Right to Attack State Sponsors Of Terrorists
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28565-2001Oct8.html

America Helped Design, Build Tunnels Used by Bin Laden
http://www.sunspot.net/news/custom/attack/bal-te.search09oct09.story

US Hints Iraq in Its Sights
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/10/world/world1.html

Kashmir Chief Calls for War
http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1576000/1576294.stm

Arabs Warn Against Wider Attacks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1589000/1589750.stm

Anti-US Demonstrations Sweep Indonesia
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33712-2001Oct9.html

Anti-US Sentiments Reach Simmering Point Throughout the Arab World
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000080569oct09.story

Call for Holy War Renewed
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011009/wl/attacks_al_qaida.html

Pakistan Committed to Uproot Terrorism: Shahida
http://www.app.com.pk/news/national.htm

Doctors Without Borders
http://www.msf.org/

International Rescue Committee
http://www.intrescom.org/

International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies
http://www.ifrc.org/


Remember not to believe everything you read in this pile of links. BE CAREFUL IF YOU DECIDE TO EXPLORE

investigation

Probe Focuses on 220 Detained After Attacks
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33982-2001Oct9.html

A Portrait of the Terrorist
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/international/middleeast/10TERR.html


civil liberties and security

Not So Fast, Senator Says, as Terror Bill Gains Ground
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/national/10RIGH.html

Oppose Extreme and Unnecessary Expansions of Government Authority!
http://www.aclu.org/action/usa107.html

Ashcroft Centralizing Control Over the Prosecution and Prevention of Terrorism
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/national/10INQU.html?pagewanted=print

Bush Wants to Use Terrorism Panel in Criminal Probes
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2001/10/06/MN183971.DTL

Databases and Security vs. Privacy
(argument against national ID cards)
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/oct2001/tc2001108_3550.htm

Technology Helps Put Surveillance in Focus
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000080591oct09.story

A Taste of Big Brother in US
http://commondreams.org/headlines01/1007-01.htm

Terrorism and the Constitution
http://www.cdt.org/policy/terrorism/terrorismbook.html

Dutch Government Wants to Regulate Strong Cryptography
http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/9763/1.html

Stopping the Next One
(whole issue on supposed prevention technologies)
http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,17505,FF.html

How the Terror Trail Went Unseen
http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/9751/1.html

INS Culls Foreign Student Info
http://www.wired.com/news/school/0,1383,47353,00.html

London "Haven" for Terrorist Money Laundering
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,566665,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,566493,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,566503,00.html

In New Role, Ridge Tackles Security Gaps
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000080556oct09.story

US to Intensify Effort Against Threat of Computer Terrorism
(this article confuses terrorists' *use* of net with attacks *against* the net)
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000080558oct09.story

Feds Unveil Airline Security Plans
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,65043,tk,dn100801X,00.asp

doctrinaire conservative resistance to federalizing airport security
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/opinion/10KRUG.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33778-2001Oct9.html

Real Security, Not Eye-Wash
http://www.equipped.org/editorial_092701.htm

Journal of Homeland Security
http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/index.cfm

Anthrax: Chapter from "Textbook of Military Medicine"
http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/Ch-22electrv699.pdf

Bioterrorism: Public Health and Medical Preparedness
http://www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?gao-02-141t

High-Tech Gadgets Sniff Out Threats
http://www.msnbc.com/news/639847.asp

New Technology May Detect Biochemical Attacks
http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001/10/8/tech-fights-bioterrorism.htm

Graphic: Anthrax Causes and Symptoms
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/10/graphics/anthrax.gif


comment

What Happened in America Is a Crime Rejected by Islaam
http://www.fatwa-online.com/questions/0010918_2.htm

Say What You Want, But This War Is Illegal
http://www.tummy.com/efm/Michael_Mandel_Say_What_You_Want.html

This Man May Become Our Nemesis
("for the Muslim dispossessed, Bin Laden is the new Saladin")
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,566745,00.html

article criticizing Pakistani intelligence links to the Taliban
http://slate.msn.com/pol/01-10-09/pol.asp

Fundamentalism and Terrorism
http://www.psychematters.com/papers/young2.htm

The West Ignores Arab Resentment at Its Peril
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,565983,00.html

Defeating Terrorism Through Dialogue, Not War
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/10/opinion/opinion4.html

Attack in the USA: Lessons to Learn
http://www.albalagh.net/current_affairs/attack_lessons.shtml

The School for Violence
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/45/cover-knode.shtml

"Osamagate"
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO110A.html

Georgia: War on Terrorism Brings Renewed Russian Pressure
http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/2001/10/03102001124455.asp

Lost in the Rhetorical Fog of War
http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=98407

The Case for American Empire
(another conservative competing to revive the most hideous, backward ideas)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/000/318qpvmc.asp

conspiracy site
http://www.copvcia.com/

standard-issue conspiracy theory
http://www.eionews.addr.com/psyops/plot_within_a_plot_part1.htm


news and information

war reports based on radio monitoring
(highly recommended)
http://www.clandestineradio.com/

A Public Flooded With Images From Friend and Foe Alike
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/arts/television/10NOTE.html

An Arab Station Offers Ground-Breaking Coverage
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/09/international/asia/09STAT.html
http://www.msnbc.com/news/640162.asp

US Urges Curb on Arab TV Channel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1578000/1578619.stm
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,178347,00.html
http://commondreams.org/headlines01/1004-01.htm

CNN Softens Its Stance on Rights to Al Jazeera Footage
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-100901cnn.story

Top Spin Doctor Apologises Over Remarkably Cynical War Memo
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,566271,00.html

public TV war resources
http://pbs.org/americaresponds/

Hotline World Extra -- war resources
http://www.theatlantic.com/hotline/

resource site for the global NGO community on issues including the war
http://www.oneworld.net/


response

Bechtel Engineer's Chronicle of Ground Zero Excavation
http://www.theflow.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=505

radio story about community organizing to help residents of Lower Manhattan
http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/20011009.atc.05.ram

Support of Airstrikes a Shift for Muslims
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-000080601oct09.story

Feds Want Terrorist Trials Held in US, but Others Favor a World Tribunal
http://www.law.com/cgi-bin/nwlink.cgi?ACG=ZZZKSSOJGSC

anti-war group
http://www.internationalanswer.org/


background

Colombian Army Tied to Paramilitary, Yet Another Report Says
(both sides in Colombia are terrorists, and the paramilitaries are the worst)
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000079550oct05.story

"Muslims make up between 10,000 and 20,000 members of the American military"
(glad to hear it)
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001_200110043.html

Taliban Terror Tactics Fuel Ethnic Hatred
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/10/world/world10.html

The Evolution of Islamic Terrorism: An Overview
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html

Afghanistan: Lessons from the Last War
http://www.nsarchive.org/NSAEBB/NSAEBB57/

In 80's, Afghan Militias Fought With US Rifles
(NRA fights restrictions on .50 caliber sniper rifles)
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/07/national/07GUNS.html?pagewanted=print

Zbigniew Brzezinski: How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen
http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html

At Home With the Taliban
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/10/10/taliban/

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