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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:41:34 -0500

BTW, jammers will most likely find their dominant use as business generators -- like in airports where coin phone revenue is dying. There must be a national security reason for blocking cell phones!!

Dave

Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:53:37 -0800
To: farber () cis upenn edu, ip-sub-1 () majordomo pobox com
From: "Joseph C. Pistritto" <jcp () jcphome com>
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actually, not true.

All a cellphone jammer needs to do, is "act like a cell". Then the cellphone will "lock onto" the bogus cell (which will never place calls to it). For AMPS phones (US National analog standard) this is trivial. It used to happen by accident at CTIA shows all the time when people were showing test equipment.

Whats more, to be "louder" than the existing cell sites (which arent in the hospital) requires very little energy. The amount of energy in a microwave door opener is more than sufficient.
  -jcp-


At 06:04 AM 11/23/2001 -0500, David Farber wrote:

Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:56:57 -0700
From: "Stewart, Russell" <russtew () sandia gov>
Subject: The cure is only slightly worse than the disease...

This story taken off of the newswire today:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011121/od/tech_hongkong_champion_dc_1.html

Concerns a signal-jamming technology being developed by a Hong Kong company
to block cellphone calls in areas where they are not wanted. Not a bad idea,
but the following excerpt caught my attention:

  "A Hong Kong company hopes to sell signal-jamming technology previously
used by the military to thwart lethal missiles to block annoying cellphone
  calls in places such as hospitals, places of worship and restaurants."

Hospitals? Now, I admit I know very little about jamming technology, but I
know that, at the very least, it requires transmitting radio energy on the
same frequency as the signal you are trying to jam. Presumably, it involves
transmitting at a considerably higher power than that of the target
signal. Now, as I understand it, hospitals' no-cellphone policy is based on
the fear that the phones' radio transmissions might interfere with hospital
equipment.  Are we to understand, then, that they intend to combat the
problem by installing a device that, by definition, must transmit on the
same frequencies at the same or considerably greater power?

I hope this was simply an error on the writer's part...

Russell Stewart, Sandia National Laboratories  russtew () sandia gov


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