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IP: re U.S. Tech Firms Abusing Visa Program
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:59:31 -0500
From: "jcphome" <jcp () jcphome com> To: <farber () cis upenn edu> Absolutely correct. A company I used to work for had something like 30% H-1Bs at the end of last year. This program is abused like heck here in the Valley. It was understandable when the unemployment rate was negative and you couldnt get people other than H-1s (who didnt care about the cost of housing) to move here, but it should be stopped now. Given the number of highly qualified people I know who've been laid off and are having problems finding anything, its amazing any of these petitions are still being approved except in really special cases. There *is* a way to fight this however: Part of the H1b process is advertising the job. This is called "Labor Market Qualification" and you have to do it for F-1 (student work) visas as well now. The scam here is that they put little tiny ads in the San Jose Mercury News with almost all the words abbreviated and in the smallest type they can find. Any resumes that appear in response to such an ad must be "disqualified" and the INS apparently has access to this paperwork. I remember doing this a few times when I worked at Oracle (not the company I mentioned above, although Oracle has a lot of H-1bs) So, what everyone who's out of work should do is *answer every one* of those ads that they're even remotely qualified (or overqualified) for. You'll make so much work for these companies, and leave such a long paper trail, that eventually this program will be more trouble than its worth. (keep a record of which ads you respond to, and *follow up on the phone* with the HR department of the company involved. The ads have code numbers on them which you should note down.) You MIGHT get a job this way (we hired a couple people who did this persistently at Oracle. If an employer can show they hired a respondent for a different position, that gets them off the hook as well). You'll very likely get an interview and that's hard these days. Make them explain why you werent qualified for the job if they say that. Prefereably in writing. If they wont put it in writing, write down the name of the person you're talking to, and the time and date and a summary of the conversation. Keep records. Just doing this makes it much harder for companines to give away jobs that should be going to people already here. The important thing to remember is that they MUST disqualify you on some rational basis. And you're likely dealing with an HR flack, not a hiring manager. The hiring manager already knows who they want to hire and hopes there wont be any resumes to respond to. I think you can probably also file a complaint with the INS about a company that persistently wont hire you. You could certainly send a stack of documentation to your Congressman and they'd likely be interested. Always be polite. Don't threaten anyone, don't accuse them of being unAmerican or anything like that. Just stick to the facts and write stuff down. You *may* end up working at one of these companies... If I end up layed off again (could be the 3rd time in a year...), I may do some of this myself... Best regards, -jcp- -----Original Message----- From: David Farber <dave () farber net> To: ip-sub-1 () majordomo pobox com <ip-sub-1 () majordomo pobox com> Date: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:00 AM Subject: IP: L.A. Times - U.S. Tech Firms Abusing Visa Program > >>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:54:18 -0500 >>From: Tom Rombouts <rombouts () compuserve com> >> >>Hi Dave - >> >>FYI, this is from today's L.A. Times I have copied in the entire article >>for your convenience. >> >>Tom Rombouts, Torrance, CA >> >> >> >>November 21, 2001 >> >>From: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-112101visa.story >> >>U.S. Tech Firms Abusing Visa Program, Critics Say >> >>By JUBE SHIVER Jr. , Times Staff Writer >> >>WASHINGTON -- Amid a massive wave of tech layoffs, U.S. firms obtained >>government approval to bring in a record 163,200 foreign workers under a >>controversial program that critics say is being abused to hire cheaper >>overseas talent. >> >>Although the number of visas approved under the H-1B program fell short of >>the 195,000 allowed annually, the hiring binge in the fiscal year that >>ended Sept. 30 has caused a furor in an industry that has experienced more >>than 600,000 layoffs over the last 10 months. >> >>"At a time when hundreds of thousands of Americans are out of work, many >>employers are rubbing salt in the wound by hiring foreign workers," said >>Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration >>Reform, a Washington group that has long sought to curtail immigration to >>the United States. >> >>The record applications for foreign workers--the majority of whom take jobs >>in the high-tech industry--come more than a year after Silicon Valley >>mounted a multimillion-dollar lobbying effort to persuade Congress to >>expand the program to satisfy skyrocketing demand for highly skilled >>workers. >> >>Executives from companies such as Sun Microsystems Inc., Intel Corp. and >>Motorola Inc. successfully argued that if the "new economy" were to >>continue to boom, it was crucial for the government to admit more engineers >>and other skilled workers. >> >>But by the time Congress raised the H-1B visa limits from 115,000 to >>195,000 in October 2000, the tech boom was already waning. >> >>Industry officials say they are eager to hire Americans. But they contend >>that even with this year's layoffs, the number of U.S. workers with >>technical skills isn't large enough to fill all the job vacancies. >> >>"The dot-com boom may be over but we are still in the middle of a skills >>shortage," said Theresa Cardinal Brown, manager of labor and immigration >>policy at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in Washington. "Every organization >>in the country has a need for information technology workers," including >>those in areas "that are still growing, like manufacturing, finance and >>health care." >> >>The surge in worker visas over the last 12 months is due in part to pent-up >>demand for engineers of all types as U.S. colleges and universities have >>graduated fewer than needed. In addition, companies rushed to hire more >>foreigners last year before a $500 visa application fee increase was >>imposed by the INS in December 2000. >> >>Murali Krishna Devarakonda, a software engineer and board member of the >>Immigrants Support Network, a Budd Lake, N.J.-based group that assists H-1B >>visa holders, said the INS' statistics are misleading. >> >>He said the INS data indicate only the number of approved visa >>applications, not the number of foreign workers who actually come to the >>U.S. He also speculated that "most of the petitions were filed before this >>economic slump started." >> >>But demand for visa applications has remained robust through the economic >>downturn. Besides the surge of applications this summer, the INS still has >>29,000 pending applications that it has shifted into the current fiscal >>year. >> >>Daniel M. Larson, director of government relations for Texas Instruments >>Inc., where H-1B workers number 800 and make up about 3% of the work force, >>said the market for electrical engineers is still extremely competitive. >> >>"We are dependent on H-1B workers and consider them a valuable part of our >>company," said Larson, whose company has laid off 2,500 workers in the last >>year. He did not have figures on whether any H-1B workers were part of the >>layoffs. >> >>For some technology workers laid low by the economic slump, the >>explanations provide little consolation. >> >>"The level of anger over this program in the technology industry just keeps >>rising," said John Miano, chairman of the Programmer's Guild, a Summit, >>N.J., trade group that represents software engineers. >> >>Gene Nelson, a divorced father of two, alleged that most of the H-1B visa >>holders working at Boston-based Genuity Inc. kept their positions this >>summer when he and 500 workers lost their jobs at the Internet >>infrastructure services provider. >> >>"Big companies basically want a work force of independent contractors . . . >>they can pay low wages to," said Nelson, who made $49,000 a year. If it >>weren't for the H-1B program, Nelson said, he would still "have a job and >>be making more money." >> >>Genuity did not return calls seeking comment. >> >>The rancor has spilled over to Congress, where at least one lawmaker has >>introduced legislation that would scale back the controversial program. >> >>The H-1B visa program was created by the Immigration Act of 1990. It >>allowed companies to hire foreign workers with hard-to-find technical >>skills. Roughly 60% of H-1B visa holders are in computer programming and >>other information technology fields, according to a report released last >>year by the General Accounting Office. >> >>Workers are supposed to earn the same salary and benefits as their >>American-born counterparts. >> >>Amid the tight job market, there are concerns about abuses of the H-1B visa >>holders themselves. A few immigrants have begun campaigning for reform of >>the program, citing instances of employers paying low wages and threatening >>to seek the deportation of foreign workers who complain. >> >>The GAO--which found that foreigners were offered a median starting salary >>of $45,000 last year--said there is little policing of the H-1B program by >>the INS. >> >>Devarakonda, of the Immigrants Support Network, agreed with the GAO's >>assessment. "The current system is certainly flawed," he said. "The >>government doesn't have the resources to police" H-1B. >> >> >>[ end - TWR ] > > >For archives see: >http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ >
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